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- From: smullins@cidmac.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott H Mullins)
- Subject: Re: Bales is a liar: evidence - one case
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:29:53 GMT
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- >smullins@cidmac.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott H Mullins) writes:
- >
- >> >I mentioned "design~ rather than "creation. But since creation is the only
- >> >prominent theory to include the idea of design, the presence in living
- >> >organisms of characteristics of design which are not characteristics of
- >> >evolutionary-type processes tends to indicate creation is a better
- >> >explanation than evolution.
- >>
- >> Actually evolution does "design" things after a fashion. The fact that
- >> organisms in many cases seem to be put together in a rather
- >> catch-as-catch-can way seems to argue against the "intelligent" designer
- >> hypothesis. (The Panda's thumb and all that). Since there is _a_ prominent
- >> theory that includes the idea of "design" then you will have to get
- >> another argument.
- >
- >That there is no "designer" need not be the only possible explanation
- >for the various apparent idiosyncrasies in the design of organisms.
-
- I didn't say it was. I said that there is _another_ explanation to the
- "looks designed to me" argument.
-
- >For
- >instance, many people who do not accept the "design" concept suppose
- >that God, or "the designer" would have done things differently. But this
- >is only a personal opinion. Some persons might say "God would have made
- >things more perfect." But this presumes that God's purpose would have
- >been to make a "perfect" world. This too is only an opinion. What if
- >God's purpose was not to make a perfect world, but a rough-and-ready
- >world where certain kinds of rough-and-ready activities are supposed to
- >be performed?
- >
- >An intelligent engineer, when faced with the extraordinary task of
- >constructing the body plans for millions of different types of
- >creatures, would probably use a basic plan that could be modified by
- >some simple adjustments. This would be more efficient than trying to
- >design each type of organism from scratch. In this way we can view the
- >genetic code as the work of a very clever engineer.
-
- You are anthropomorphizing god. An omniscient, omnipotent being would not
- have the restrictions of a human engineer. If you are arguing that God
- needs a "simple" way of doing things then does this mean that your "god"
- is not omnipotent? A non-omnipotent god does not sound like a god to me,
- just a very powerful alien.
-
- >Sincerely,
- >Kalki Dasa
-
- I have a serious question. Do you understand Thompson's "proof"?
-
- If you do then why don't you post an outline, in your own words, of this
- proof? This would not violate any copyright laws that I know of. If you say
- that you do not have time then how do you have time to post the volume that
- you do?
-
- Scott
-