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- From: smullins@cidmac.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott H Mullins)
- Subject: Re: Probability of Evolution
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.202815.3006@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
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- Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:28:15 GMT
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- >smullins@cidmac.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott H Mullins) writes:
- >
- >> Kalki, you'all have gone from promising to post the material to claiming
- >> that you already have in record time, even for a creationist.
- >> >> Velikovsky had lots of published papers too, didn't he?
- >> >
- >> >Yes, so do Dawkins and Gould. Oh, but then, you AGREE with them, right?
- >> >So their papers REALLY count, right?
- >>
- >> Their papers count because they generally write about things that they
- >> know and for which they have gathered evidence.
- >
- >Right, evidence. Then show us a species changing into another species.
- >Show us amoebas being formed from molecules. Go ahead, show us the
- >evidence!
-
- In a recent post you say that you never claimed that single cell organisms
- arose "all at once" without any reproducing precursors. This last paragraph
- seems to give the lie to your statement. What else would "amoebas being
- formed from molecules" mean?
-
- Evidence for speciation is available in the talk.origins FAQ. You also said
- that you would read the FAQ when we read the "book". Apparently someone
- has found a copy of Thompson's book and is reading it. Does this mean
- that we can count on you to read the FAQ? Will you post a rebuttal to
- the information in the FAQ? If you do not aren't you more of the "chicken"
- (your words) than anyone else on this newsgroup since no one is asking you
- to shell out hard earned deniro for the FAQ?
-
- >Sincerely,
- >Kalki "so the computer built itself, right" Dasa
-
- All of your rebuttals along the lines of "who built the computer" only serve
- to argue against atheism. While I do not accept this argument from analogy
- I feel that this is a strictly philosophical difference and is a matter
- of opinion.
-
- On what grounds do you feel that this argues against _either_ abiogenesis
- or evolution? (please be specific about which it argues against and how. If
- you confuse abiogenesis with evolution I won't be able to understand your
- reply)
-
- A question on a separate topic:
-
- If I understand you correctly by your definition only living things have
- consciousness. Similarly only things that have consciousness are alive.
-
- Let's perform a thought experiment: I have an object and I want to determine
- if it is living or not. What do I do? I must first find out if it has
- consciousness. But the only way I can know if it has consciousness is to
- determine whether or not it is alive, which was the problem I started out
- with. What do I do? (please give me a serious answer)
-
- Scott
-
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