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- From: ingles@engin.umich.edu (Ray Ingles)
- Subject: Re: Would you believe anyway ???
- Message-ID: <FZF=sw@engin.umich.edu>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 10:48:17 EST
- Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
- References: <1992Nov14.051219.1943@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <D0kDuB1w165w@kalki33>
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- In article <D0kDuB1w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
- >esot@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Eric Sotnak) writes:
- >
- >> .>> I hereby reach out to God with the desire to know him. God, if you exi
- >> .>> please cure all cases of AIDS by 12:00 noon tomorrow (11-12-92). Since y
- >> .>> are perfectly-loving, you will want to do so, since you are all-powerful,
- >> .>> you are capable of doing so, since you are all-knowing, you will know (a)
- >> .>> how to do so, and (b) that you are being offered this public opprtunity t
- >> .>> prove your existence to all the unbelievers you so dearly want to convinc
- >> .>> of your existence. Failure to abide by the specified condition will be
- >> .>> taken as justification for disbelieving the proposition <God exists>.
- >> .>
- >> .>A list of demands and a threat. Yep, that's really "reaching out to God
- >> .>with a desire to know Him" all right.
- >
- >> Not demands, but a set of conditions by which God could provide rather good
- >> evidence for his existence.
- >
- >Nope. Demands.
-
- Nopre, a set of requests with justifications. What's wrong with the
- justifications? Or will you say, "Nope. They're just wrong."
-
- >> Not a threat, but a statement of what seems to be a perfectly legitimate
- >> interpretation of a null result.
- >
- >Nope. A threat.
-
- How is that going to hurt a God? Besides, does one 'threaten' an experiment
- with disbelief if you get a null result?
-
- >> Besides, like many others, I've gone through the sincere questing and come
- >> up empty.
- >
- >It is not possible that your quest was both sincere and unsuccessful.
-
- You are free to believe that everyone who sys that is lying, I guess. I've
- talked to too many people who say that to think that they are *all* lying.
- Besides, it's unfalsifiable. You quest. Either... a) you find, in which
- case God exists, or... b) you don't find, in which case you weren't really
- questing, and God still exists.
-
- You might want to check out the FAQ for alt.atheism. I can email it to
- you. (Oh, and by the way, before you take the fact that an atheist believes
- in evolution as a sign that the two are inextricably related, ask around
- t.o for the CWACKers.)
-
- >Sincerely,
- >Kalki Dasa
-
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Ray Ingles
- ingles@engin.umich.edu
-
- "The meek can *have* the Earth. The rest of us are going to the
- stars!" - Robert A. Heinlein
-