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- From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Probability of Evolution
- Message-ID: <H4LDuB4w165w@kalki33>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 04:12:28 EST
- References: <1992Nov14.105126.27825@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
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- tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
-
- > In article <80T3TB15w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
- > >
- > >The differential equations which represent the known forces of physics
- > >can all be written very briefly, and an algorithm which will solve them
- > >to an arbitrary degree of accuracy can be specified with a few pages of
- > >code, but the objects on which these forces are supposed to act are
- > >generally much more complicated, and it is these objects which must be
- > >specified in the initial/boundary conditions. This is usually done by
- > >giving a probability distribution or by assuming that the objects are
- > >all identical except for their location in space. But when this is done
- > >we lose information, and we allow for the possibility of inaccuracy.
- >
- > Great! Personally, I think this is lots more interesting than even
- > probabilistic "refutations" of evolution/abiogenesis/whatever. Perhaps
- > you all could post a brief differential equation or two that would fully
- > represent the strong and weak nuclear forces and then present a simple
- > algorithm that will calculate to an arbitrary degree of accuracy the
- > waveform of a molecule. If it'll help, you all are welcome to use the
- > simplifying assumption that all quarks and leptons involved are
- > dimensionless and identical save for their positions and momenta.
-
- Oh? So your point is that there are certain "forces" in physics whose
- nature is not fully known, and for which the equations of motion are not
- fully known? Is this your point? If so, then we certainly agree with
- you. There is no complete Grand Unified Theory.
-
- Tell us, then, what role the strong and weak nuclear forces are supposed
- to play in abiogenesis. Are nuclear reactions going on in the primordial
- soup?
-
- As far as we know no one has yet proposed a possible mechanism for
- abiogenesis that involves the nuclear forces in any way. If this is the
- case, and if the nuclear forces do indeed play a crucial role in
- abiogenesis, then, it would seem that there is less justification than
- ever for supposing that abiogenesis occurred, since it is now dependent
- on an unknown set of laws.
-
- Sincerely,
- Kalki Dasa
-
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