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- From: eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley)
- Subject: Re: restrictions
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.222908.16172@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
- References: <1992Nov20.152958.6298@nas.nasa.gov> <1992Nov21.080116.4429@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov23.093407.25205@hemlock.cray.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:29:08 GMT
- Lines: 39
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- In article <1992Nov23.093407.25205@hemlock.cray.com>
- mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov21.080116.4429@midway.uchicago.edu>
- >eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
-
- >>However, I think a law (in current practice through definitions rather
- >>than being passed as a law, I believe) saying "Any z/e/f delivered
- >>alive whether by choice or by a botched abortion is a person; killing
- >>him/her is murder and allowing him/her to die is manslaughter by
- >>neglience" does not damage a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy.
- >>(Of course, it doesn't protect *fetuses* either....)
-
- >Elizabeth, parents are currently allowed to refuse
- >treatment for a preemie whose chances are not that
- >good. If someone you loved gave birth to a child
- >whose neonatal care would cost over a million dollars,
- >and the child would have less than a 5% chance of survival,
- >and almost infintesimal chances of surviving without
- >severe handicaps, and the months of treatment required
- >would be invasive and painful, would you deny those folk
- >the right to say, "Back off and let me hold him while he
- >lasts"? Think about it.
-
- Not only do I have no objections to the parents making that decision,
- I think I would make that decision under those circumstances.... And
- might well make that decision for myself as well as a newborn infant.
- (It would probably depend, I suppose, on what sort of a life I/my
- child would have if I/him/her survived.)
-
- People *are* allowed to refuse medical treatment, and parents
- generally are allowed to refuse invasive medical treatment for their
- children. When I spoke of "allowing him/her to die" I meant failing
- to take much more routine measures.
-
- --
- Pro-Choice Anti-Roe - E. Elizabeth Bartley
- Abortions should be safe, legal, early, and rare.
-
- Cthulhu for President -- when you're tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.
-