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- From: frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: What REALLY pisses me off about Fundies
- Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:16:53 GMT
- Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
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- In article <1992Nov21.032439.15438@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes ...
- >> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >>>From all the evidence I have available, the pregnant
- >>>woman is almost always clearly a person while a 12-week fetus isn't.
- >>>I might well be wrong, but I'm less likely to be wrong than one who
- >>>claims sentience for a 5 week embryo.
- >>
- >>On what basis do you assign these 'likelihoods'? Up there you said
- >>you were guessing.
- >
- >Well gee. Lets see. A woman can actually say whether she wants to be
- >pregnant and can even say why. A 12 week fetus not only cannot do the
- >same, but can't even survive outside of the mother. A 5 week embryo
- >doesn't even have the needed equipment to talk.
- >
- >That's a pretty good start.
-
- Sentience != survival (I can't survive outside a city)
- Sentience != speech (People don't always talk during their sleep)
-
- Plus, There are lots of things which _I_ am aware of and think about for which
- _you_ have no evidence whatsoever. As Ms. Bartley says, absence of evidence
- is not evidence of absence.
-
- Guess again.
-
- >Ray Fischer
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