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- From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
- Subject: Re: Guilty of (Fill In Th
- X-To: LARRY MARGOLIS
- Organization: The Zoo of Ids
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:24:00 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.024458.18269@zooid.guild.org>
- Sender: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
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- margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes...
- LM> In <1992Oct30.014531.22679@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.o
- LM> writes:
- LM> >I realise that you might find it invidious to "legislate honesty". However
- LM> >there are many areas where "attitudes" and "honesty" are legislated, namely
- LM> >"affirmative" action laws, "comparative worth" pay programmes,
-
- LM> These laws were passed in response to a verified problem. I've seen no
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- LM> evidence of such a problem in regards to the laws you want passed.
-
-
- I hardly think that the lack of "equality of results" is necessarily inherent
- proof of systemic discrimination. Read "The Employment Equity Empress Has
- No Clothes," by Grant A. Brown, for a thorough refutation of the premises
- behind "affirmative action" laws. (*Someone* is going to call the title
- sexist, I just *know* it...)
-
- Still, the reason I brought up the point, is that in employment situations, we
- *used* to count on the honesty and the objectivity of employers to hire without
- bias, and to trust their judgements without having to *force* a judgement upon
- them.
-
- In the case of father notification, we have a case where people have said "Women
- will generally tell the father, unless there is a genuine problem," and indeed,
- that "you can't legislate attitudes". This is why I find it so strange that
- in the former case, we feel it necessary to legislate attitudes and honesty,
- without it being considered "oppressive," yet in the latter case, many of these
- same people who yell about having to legislate attitudes, are crying foul.
-
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