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- From: eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley)
- Subject: Re: restrictions
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.080116.4429@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
- References: <1992Nov18.175129.12959@nas.nasa.gov> <1992Nov19.192808.662@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov20.152958.6298@nas.nasa.gov>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:01:16 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.152958.6298@nas.nasa.gov>
- dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King) writes:
- >eb>In article <1992Nov19.192808.662@midway.uchicago.edu>
- >eb>eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley) writes:
- >dk>In article <1992Nov18.175129.12959@nas.nasa.gov>
- >dk>dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King) writes:
-
- >rf>Isn't there some way of protecting viable fetuses while ensuring the
- >rf>right of a woman to end the pregnancy?
-
- >The abortion question is a case of conflicting rights. The right of
- >the fetus versus the right of the woman. If you want to answer this
- >conflict with legislation, the legislation would have to give the
- >right to one side at the expense of the other. Ray asked if it was
- >possible to answer this conflict by ensuring both rights. This is
- >not possible when they are conflicting rights like this. I would
- >say there are non-legislative ways to do this. There are ways to
- >lesson the conflict by encouraging one side or the other to give
- >up some of their rights for the other. But legislation does not
- >have the ability to do this.
-
- >Of course I could be wrong about all this and perhaps there is some
- >sort of magical legislation that I am not aware of. I'd be
- >interested in hearing it.
-
- Well, there's legislation that can do this, but it's not the sort
- you're thinking of -- laws along the lines of "Medicare shall in all
- cases pay the medical bills for premature infants" are legislation
- too, after all.
-
- In general, I agree with you that laws enacted to protect fetuses will
- inevitably injure the woman's right to end her pregnancy, to a greater
- or lesser degree depending on the law in question. In theory, a law
- saying "All steps which would help the fetus without negatively
- affecting the woman shall be taken at taxpayers' expense" need not
- affect the woman's right to end her pregancy -- but in practice, with
- the doctors worrying about getting in trouble for killing the baby
- when the woman wasn't at all *that* much risk, it would.
-
- However, I think a law (in current practice through definitions rather
- than being passed as a law, I believe) saying "Any z/e/f delivered
- alive whether by choice or by a botched abortion is a person; killing
- him/her is murder and allowing him/her to die is manslaughter by
- neglience" does not damage a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy.
- (Of course, it doesn't protect *fetuses* either....)
-
- --
- Pro-Choice Anti-Roe - E. Elizabeth Bartley
- Abortions should be safe, legal, early, and rare.
-
- Cthulhu for President -- when you're tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.
-