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- From: chall@eco.twg.com (Charles Don Hall)
- Subject: Re: The Silent Holocaust
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.212836.5363@eco.twg.com>
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- References: <Nov.19.11.14.25.1992.12839@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:28:36 GMT
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- In <Nov.19.11.14.25.1992.12839@andromeda.rutgers.edu> hauk@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Keira E. Hauk) writes:
-
- >I just galnced through this group for the first time, and I sense a lot of
- >hostility...You can all beat me down however you want, but it is nothing
- >compared to the silent holocaust going on every day in this country.
-
- > For all those out there who have had an abortion or are considering it: YOU
- >MADE THAT CHOICE BEFORE YOU GOT PREGNANT! Ok, excluding that small percentage
- >of rape victims who get pregnant. But for the majority, don't tell me about
- >your freedoms of choice. You made that choice the moment you had sexual
- >intercourse. What CHOICES did that baby have? And how can you tell me when
- >life begins? Can you prove to me that life doen't begin until birth? Can you
- >define life?
-
- I'd like to try to take a stab at this, but you've left out a lot of
- specifics, and made it very hard to figure out exactly what you
- believe. I'm going to try to guess, though.
- . In your first paragraph, you compare abortion to the Holocaust.
- I assume that you're saying that killing a fetus is exactly the same
- as killing an adult. Then, in your second paragraph, you seem to
- assert that rape victims should be allowed to have abortions.
-
- As far as I can tell, then, a fair summary of your beliefs is the
- following: "There is no difference between killing a fetus and
- killing an adult. Therefore, any woman who obtains an abortion
- is guilty of conspiracy to commit murder, and should be punished
- accordingly. However, if a given person's father is a rapist, then
- he/she may be legally executed at any time, as long as his/her
- mother gives permission". Am I right in assuming that you think
- this should be the law of the land? If not, I hope that you'll
- correct me.
-
- The thing is, it's very easy to just charge in and announce that
- abortion is wrong. It's very easy, and it accomplishes nothing.
- I'll grant that there are too many abortions. The question is,
- what do you intend to do about it?
-
- Here, I'll tell you exactly what I'm looking for:
- 1) How should we decide which laws to pass? In other words,
- what is the difference between a "good" law and a "bad" law?
- 2) What should the law on abortion be? Which abortions
- should be legal, and which abortions should be illegal? What
- penalties should be associated with illegal abortions?
- 3) Based on your answers to the previous two questions, explain
- how your proposed law is "better" than the current law.
-
- [I'm not the most concise author in the world, so I'll leave the
- rest of your article for someone else to dissect.]
-
- > -Keira
-