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- From: phil@seidel.ucsb.edu (Philip Papadopoulos)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections
- Subject: DID BUSH KILL HIS CHANCES BY NOT ATTACKING FOCA?
- Message-ID: <phil.722110508@seidel>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 18:15:08 GMT
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- Followup-To: talk.abortion
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- > If you want to oppose abortion, go ahead. But when you try to
- >force EVERYONE to obey your beliefs, you are being un-American in
- >the extreme. People won't put up with this shit any more. It is
- >becoming a different America. You fundies have had your day. It
- >is over for you intolerant bastards. Go crawl back to that swamp
- >from which you came. And don't come out until you can stop lying
- >to everyone.
-
- Since you have lowered the level of this conversation. I will
- respond in kind:
-
- "Fuck all you want. Get as many abortions as you want. I don't give flying
- fuck about people who want abortions on demand - at any time - for any
- reason. -- Just don't ask me (a person who doesn't screw anything
- that moves, and a taxpayer) to pay for it"
-
- I can understand completely elective abortions (unhappy with
- being pregnant, etc.) within the first 10 weeks of pregnancy. After that,
- there better be a damn good reason for an abortion (i.e. amniocentisis reports
- Down's syndrome, anencephaly, rape, incest, etc.). Women always claim that
- "it's my body. I'll do with it what I want." This is absurd. Do you
- not see drinking (to excess)or using illegal drugs while pregnant as
- child abuse. There are no laws that make a crime to drink to excess while
- the baby is in the womb. But hey, the second the kid is born, he/she
- has "rights". Crazy isn't it. At some point, somebody must make a
- decision as to when a childs life begins. Conception and birth
- are the extremes. I would say that life begins when the fetus can be sustained
- (even by aritificial means) outside the womb. Technology will keep
- pushing that day closer and closer to conception. i
-
- The writer of the above may be a reasonable abortion rights activist.
- The ones who get the press are the extremists. I can stand those people
- even less than I can stand the right wing religionist point of view
- that all abortion is wrong.
-