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- Subject: Re: restrictions
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- From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:39:46 GMT
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- In article <1ebb5tINN3cm@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
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- #I think to call a mature baby in the birth canal a foetus is stretching the
- #term. This is a baby being born.
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- It's a fetus before birth, and a baby after birth. I don't think
- it matters all that much which term is used for that entity
- during birth. (I don't consider it that big a deal, myself.
- I note that youIf you wish to use "baby" and "birth canal" and
- I choose to use "fetus" and "vagina," I think that we can still
- communicate.
-
- #It is certainly offensive to say that the
- #baby is more important than the woman - but is it any less offensive to say
- #the woman is more important than the baby? I, for one, am prepared to say
- #that they are equally important.
-
- I don't think that any of the three opinions are inherently
- more offensive - I think that the woman involve's opinion
- is probably the only relevant one, anyway.
-
- #I would wish to see both being treated as
- #patients - and this is the normal medical attitude during birth.
-
- You are in Germany, aren't you? I read a book recently (_Eunuchs
- for the Kingdom of Heaven_, I can't recall the author's name)
- which mentioned that there are some hospitals in Germany which
- still place a higher priority on saving the baby's life. I'll
- look up the reference again.
-
- My example, of course, involved a problem which would easily be
- solved in any hospital by performing a C-section and saving
- both lives - that's why I specified a non-professional in an
- isolated area. Thanks to modern medicine, that particular
- problem should be so rare as to be newsworthy.
-
- #Having said that, I can't offhand think of any related restrictions which
- #would be warranted and workable, and which wouldn't hinder the medical
- #profession, thereby putting women at risk.
-
- I agree.
-
- I sometimes wonder if supporters of restrictions on late term
- abortions would also like to enact into law restrictions to
- govern the conduct of physicians in every possible instance.
- They seem to ignore the fact that an unscrupulous doctor could
- willfully kill people in other procedures that are not currently
- specifically mentioned in any statute.
-
- Susan
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