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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: DID BUSH KILL HIS CHANCES BY NOT ATTACKING FOCA?
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- Date: 17 Nov 92 02:16:08 GMT
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- In <1992Nov10.162945.20099@eco.twg.com> chall@eco.twg.com (Charles Don Hall) writes:
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- >In <nyikos.721347704@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
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- >>Maryland already had a law on the books STRONGER than FOCA. What was
- >>the point of putting the public through a referendum?
-
- >I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Here's the history of the
- >abortion situation in Maryland:
-
- [pre-RvW history deleted]
-
- >Last year, it appeared that Roe v. Wade would soon be overturned,
- >and it was believed that the old law would once more take effect. The
- >state government passed a bill which repealed the old law, and which
- >created a new law which was equivalent to Roe v. Wade or FOCA.
-
- Roe v. Wade is not equivalent to FOCA.
-
- > (It
- >most assuredly isn't "stronger" than FOCA).
-
- Wrong. FOCA does not allow fetal defects as a reason for abortion after
- viability. The Maryland law does.
-
- > Pro-life organizations
- >started a petition drive to repeal the new law, and got enough signatures
- >to force a referendum.
-
- >The pro-lifers went on to say that pro-choicers should therefore
- >vote to strike down the new law, and make the state legislature
- >"get it right next time". Even if RvW were overturned, the old
- >law would still be in place, and it was one of the most liberal
- >in the country. [They left it to pro-choice organizations to
- >tell everyone what this "liberal" law really was.]
-
- They were in a dilemma about that: if they had published how liberal
- the old law was, a lot of doctrinaire pro-lifers could not have stomached
- voting for such a watered-down referendum. It was bad enough in
- Arizona, where lots of pro-lifers abstained because the constitutional
- amendment would have ALLOWED the legislature to pass laws granting
- exceptions for assault rape and incest. To all too many pro-lifers,
- compromise is a dirty word.
-
- >BTW, I haven't heard anyone say anything yet about the parental
- >notification clause...it had an interesting twist. Instead of
- >judicial bypass, it had physician bypass. This means that
- >notification could be waived by the doctor
-
- read: the abortionist
-
- > at the clinic. This
- >seemed kind of insulting to me: I think that doctors will
- >already refuse to perform an abortion on a minor if she's
- >clearly out of her depth.
-
- The law is insulting to me for the opposite reason: I have yet to
- hear of an abortionist turning down a minor who wanted an abortion.
- If Charles Don Hall knows of any cases, I'd be extremely interested.
-
- Peter Ny.
-
-