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- From: cp7927@oktext.sbc.com (Caryn S. Prater)
- Subject: Re: twisting (Thans for life)Read!
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.231659.8583@swbatl.sbc.com>
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- Reply-To: cp7927@oktext.UUCP (Caryn S. Prater)
- Organization: Southwestern Bell
- References: <1992Nov5.131522.8439@iscsvax.uni.edu> <BxJ1G2.5Kp@news.udel.edu> <1992Nov11.184430.8657@iscsvax.uni.edu> <83692@ut-emx.uucp>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:16:59 GMT
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- In article <83692@ut-emx.uucp> andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard) writes:
- >clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
- > [in response to Scott Roby]
- >
- >everyone else to have the same beliefs he does.
- >
- >>We need to help our children to grow up in a society that they can know what is
- >>right and what is wrong.
- >
- >True enough. That which is right hurts no one. That which is wrong
- >hurts people. Whether you think abortion is right or wrong depends on
- >whether or not you think the fetus is a person, and whether this
- >personhood is more or less important than the mother's rights.
- >
-
- I have something to add here. I want to be the one to teach my
- children what is right and wrong, not what someone else believes
- is right or wrong. The trouble with ( some) Christians is that
- they believe they have a lock on " right" and " wrong" and all
- of the rest of will accept their version " or else". Fanatics
- of all stripes scare me.
-
-
- >>War is killing, isn't it?
- >
- >War is quite a bit more than just killing.
- >
- >>We were given the ability to do as we want, even against God, to have freedom.
- >>Isn't God great to give us the ability to hate him or the choice to live in
- >>him.
- >
-
- I find it strange that all these " Christians" were 100% behind
- Uncle George when he flew into Bagdahd and killed thousands of
- innocent citizens and then cry about aborted z/e/f's. Oh, I for-
- got, they were the " enemy", sorry. :-)
-
-
- >>I know. Staggering isn't it(divorse rate)? That is why we need to help our
- >>kids to grow up with morals.
- >
- >You know, I'm rapidly becoming offended by this.
- >
- >I'm not divorced...I'm not even married, yet. :-) My parents are not
- >divorced, for which I am grateful. However, my parents told me that to
- >continue a loveless marriage is a far greater sin than to get a divorce.
- >Do you now insinuate that my parents have taught me no morals?
- >
-
- Don't be offended, they have all the answers. Morals are anything
- they believe in and want to force down the rest of our throats.
- Funny thing this, the fundies forget the basic premise of this
- country is personal freedom, freedom from government opression, yet
- they want to pass LAWS that restrict freedom. Abortion is only the
- test case as it were.
-
- >
- >>Much of religion is organized because there REALLY IS a God out there
- >>directing us. A seperate nation. One that is open to everyone. Please
- >>consider it. Don't let our difference of opinion keep you out.
- >
- >"A sep[a]rate nation??" That's the most frightening thing I've heard you
- >say yet. Am I alone in thinking that it's a short step from here to the
- >Master Race?
-
- You got it, sound vaguely like " new world order"? I want to know
- who are all these people God is using as traffic cops for the right?
- Also, this seperate nation is not " open to everyone" only those
- who will follow blindly someone like Jim Baker or Jerry Swaggert
- or a Jerry Fallwell or, God forbid Pat Buchannan or Phyllis Schfaley
- ( sp?). You will not be able to think, reason or ask questions in
- this " seperate nation".
-
-
-
-
- >
- >>Also, I don't think we should support a law only if it agrees with special
- >>interest groups such as planned parenthood.
- >
- >Or the Catholic Church. Or people who can't afford college. Or young
- >children. They're all special interest groups.
-
- Or apparently z/e/f's, since you would have us believe by your pol-
- itical stance a z/e/f would be.
-
- Pretty scarey stuff, this.
-
- Caryn
-
-
- >
- >--
- >--Andrew Hackard If I spoke for UT, this post
- > andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu would make even less sense.
-
- --
- Nolite te bastardes carborunodorum
- Author unknown :-)
-