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- From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Misogyny
- Message-ID: <32683@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 16:05:34 GMT
- References: <1992Oct29.154027.10636@cs.yale.edu> <31866@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> <1992Nov14.215402.19126@rotag.mi.org>
- Followup-To: kevin@rotag.mi.org
- Organization: NYU Stern School of Business
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- In article <1992Nov14.215402.19126@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org
- (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >In article <31866@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen
- >J. Mezias) writes:
- >>
- >>I find the anti-choice position to have a
- >>discriminatory effect and I feel comfortable interpreting that
- >>discriminatory effect as evidence of misogyny.
- >
- >More men than women died when the Titanic sunk. I guess icebergs are
- >misandrous, huh?
- >
- >Be careful in attributing motives, based purely on EFFECTS, Stephen.
-
- First, I am sure that certain corrections would disprove your
- contention. If we controlled for the effects of (1) actual gender
- distribution on the ship and (2) policies that allocate positions on
- lifeboats on the basis of status, we could disprove your claim by
- testing against a random sample of events {Ship hitting iceberg}. I
- believe that disproving my claim would prove more difficult; in
- addition, I believe that those who believed my claim would be less
- likely to be recommended for mental health care than those who
- supported your contention about misandrous icebergs.
-
- Second, the question is not about comparisons of objective cause and
- effect, it is about how we actually define cause and effect. If one
- applies a contract law model, then proving intent is not necessary.
- The very fact that you failed to meet the contract *in effect* is
- enought to establish guilt.
-
- My statement quite clearly gave my position: I am comfortable in
- associating the intent to discriminate against women with support for
- forced pregnancy. If you have some other interpretation that you wish
- me to consider as I follow your advice to be more careful in making
- such assertions, please share it with us.
-
- SJM
-