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- From: platt@watson.ibm.com (Daniel E. Platt)
- Subject: Re: Where should beginner begin?
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:14:39 GMT
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- In article <1541700004@gn.apc.org>, antennae@gn.apc.org writes:
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- |>
- |> Could anyone please recommend some good books for a complete novice
- |> who would like to learn something about physics - particularly
- |> relativity and quantum theory? Is it necessary to have a good
- |> grounding in mathematics before you can understand anything?
- |>
- |> All the best, Indra
-
- There's a lot that can be said at a qualitative level. For example,
- a dominant feature of quantum mechanics is the idea that momentum
- and wavelength are related, and that if the wavelength of an object
- is large enough, you start to see wave-like behavior (interference
- patterns) -- but you are also seing particle-like behavior at the
- same time (people are still arguing about what that means). There's
- also the phenomena of quantum tunneling, where particles can leak
- across barriers if the barriers are smaller than their wavelengths.
- Interference (constructive and destructive) implies that you will
- also see some regions that are excluded, due to destructive interference.
- This implies that you will see only a finite number of discrete constructions
- available. Examples of that include angular momentum, spin, etc. Then,
- there's the possibility of building things out of waves to describe
- the behavior of systems that have no classical analogue (particles can
- have something called intrinsic spin, for instance). Then, there's the
- problem of consistent observation -- how can two observers always see
- conservation of energy or angular momentum for two particles produced
- in such a way as to require angular momentum conservation, if both measurements
- are separated by a large displacement, and the quantum description does not
- specify what momentum a particle is in before the measurement? Does this
- mean that somehow one particle tells the other what state it was ultimately
- measured in, even if the information had to be communicated faster than
- light?
-
- The question is, what does the above mean? Is it possible to talk about
- all of this stuff without a basis in mathematics? If you need a good
- grounding in math, what does that grounding look like? Relativity and
- quantum mechanics look glitzy and seem weird and wonderful. It can be
- hard to appreciate that ideas such as momentum, wavelength, and
- interference have specific and specialized technical meanings. People
- who work with them take the meanings for granted. Einstein's seminal paper
- on special relativity was a sort of innocuous looking discussion of
- the 'electrodynamics of moving charges.' It basically looked at the
- problem of how Maxwell's equations would look to different observers. It
- was a really hot problem of the day that had the attention of lots of
- people. Einstein's paper used high-school algebra, yet it talked about
- lots of ideas that required a lot more depth to really appreciate the
- arguments. I think there's a problem with the kinds of qualitative
- presentations as highlighted in the first paragraph. It says something
- about the flavor of the arguments, and states something in a nice
- qualitative way about how quantum mechanics fits together. But it doesn't
- do a good job of really getting deep enough to understand even the basic
- language (what's 'wavelength'? what's 'momentum'? how do you calculate
- 'interference'? what does 'intrinsic spin' really mean?). That language
- and its subtler implications are taken for granted in this kind of development.
-
- Feynmann's 'Lectures on Physics' have a nice discussion of what it really
- takes to present some of these ideas. He talks about this in the preface.
- While these lectures were presented to beginning students (freshmen and
- sophomores), many physics majors use them to prepare for their PhD qualifiers.
- However, he tries to span the gap of saying all kinds of glitzy stuff,
- and trying to present enough useful information to really communicate
- the concepts. It's a hard job. Feynmann himself was not satisfied with
- the results.
-
- Dan
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