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- From: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt)
- Subject: Re: TIME HAS INERTIA. V.R.PRATT's LATEST COMMENT ON FTA
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- References: <1992Nov20.190744.6915@meteor.wisc.edu> <1992Nov20.230233.18271@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> <abian.722489461@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:17:29 GMT
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- In article <abian.722489461@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu> abian@iastate.edu (Alexander Abian) writes:
- > 11-22-92
- >Dear Mr. Pratt:
- >
- > In your 11-20-92 posting you correctly quoted my 11-11-92 abridged
- >proof. Here are your words:
- >
- >>For the record here's Abian's proof (that 1+z+z^2 has a zero) again.
- >
- >>> PROOF. Assume on the contrary, and without loss of generality, let
- >>> 1 + z + z^2 have no root, i.e., 1 + z + z^2 never vanishes.
- >>>Long divide 1 by 1+z+z^2 in two ways - in descending and ascending
- >>>powers of z, i.e.,
- >>>
- >>> 1/ (1+z+z^2) = 1 - z + z^3 - z^4 + z^6 - ...
- >>>
- >>> 1/ (z^2+z+1) = 1/(z^2) - 1/(z^3) + 1/(z^5) - 1/(z^6) + ...
- >>>
- >>>The two expressions on the right side of = must be identical. But
- >>>they are not. Contradiction. Hence our assumption is false and the
- >>>Theorem is proved.
- >
- > You notice that I said "The two expressions on the right side
- >of = must be IDENTICAL" (by virtue of the well known uniqueness
- >of the expansion of Analytic Functions). The reason that in the
- >unabridged version I mentioned the "singularity" -because people
- >would have then asked "Why they should be identical" - in fact someone
- >asked !
- >So I used both versions, one in the abridged form the other in the unab-
- >ridged form.
- > How come you did not note my word "IDENTICAL" on 11-11-92 ?
-
- It was a holiday.
-
- I was laboring under the delusion that you were still appealing to the
- "essential singularity" of
-
- > 1/ (z^2+z+1) = 1/(z^2) - 1/(z^3) + 1/(z^5) - 1/(z^6) + ...
-
- which was giving everybody trouble, and failed to notice that you had
- replaced that controversial argument with a more rigorous identity
- argument. Very sorry about that!
-
- So I guess the general form of your original argument is that your two
- division processes yield *distinct* series (I'll buy that), one valid
- near z = 0 and the other near z = oo (I'll buy that too), and that in
- the absence of poles these two domains of validity can both be expanded
- without limit until they overlap (I'll buy that). But a function
- cannot have two distinct series valid on the same domain (that I buy as
- well).
-
- Ok, sold! Thanks for a nice proof.
-
- (What did you think of the Liouville's-theorem argument?)
- --
- Vaughan Pratt A fallacy is worth a thousand steps.
-