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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Re: Is orthogonality of kets same as distinguishability of paths?
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:36:39 GMT
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- In article <By2xKH.J5G@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
-
- >It is not clear that the Feynman picture really is equivalent to the Dirac
- >ket or Hilbert space picture. In fact Isham's Lectures on Quantum Gravity
- >suggest that Feynman's is more fundamental and that Hilbert space emerges
- >as a kind of low energy approximation.
-
- Please don't try to use Isham as support for this dubious point - he
- would merely snicker if he heard. If you read Feynman and Hibbs you
- will see a fine demonstration of the equivalence of Feynman path
- integral and Hilbert space formalisms for quantum mechanics. This is
- all one needs to do quantum optics to ones hearts content. This
- equivalence can be made as rigorous as you like if you use Wick rotation
- - see for example Barry Simon's book on functional integration. The
- equivalence is also widely used in quantum field theory, although here
- there are some subtle issues having to do with the fact that QFT has not
- been rigorously done in either formalism. (Thus people sometimes claim
- that effect X, Y or Z can be more easily seen in the path-integral or
- Hilbert space formalisms, or that calculation X, Y or Z gives different
- answers in different formalisms - until someone comes along and
- straightens things out. The Osterwalder-Schroeder theorem and other
- such results show that in general one should expect an equivalence
- between these 2 approaches to the extent that one can do anything right
- in either formalism).
-
- As for quantum gravity, nobody knows how to do it in any formalism, so
- speculation reigns supreme. Isham was talking about quantum gravity.
- That has nothing to do with of quantum optics.
-
- By the way, just because I occaisonally post something disagreeing with
- Sarfatti does not mean that I ever agree with him!
-