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- From: ric@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Ric Peregrino)
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:35:27 GMT
- Subject: Re: Covariant vs. Lie Derivative in Gen. Rel.?
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- References: <1992Nov16.221115.9273@galois.mit.edu>
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- >Well, what you are calling "any non-null vector" is precisely what I
- >would call "any non-null tangent vector." To be precise, the formula
- >
- > j
- >v A (x)
- > i;j
- >
- >makes sense whenever v^j is a list of numbers, but this formula
- >expresses in a certain coordinate system the covariant derivative of A
- >in the direction given by the tangent vector v, which has components v^j
- >in that coordinate system.
-
- Well, what if I want to know the "covariant derivative of A in the
- direction of w, and w=2v? Then this covariant derivative in the
- "same direction" would not be the same. This use of "direction" is not
- what I am familiar with.
-
- >The best one can say in old-fashioned lingo is that the connection IS
- >the Christoffel symbol Gamma (which Ric confusingly calls G
-
- I used G for Gamma, which is not necessarily the Christoffel symbol of the
- second kind. I understand from Warren that this G is the connection. A
- particular connection would be G = {ij,k}. But there are an infinite set
- of connections which produce a new covariant index on a tensor through
- covariant differentiation.
-
- > The answer is just that *every* vector on the
- >manifold is in the tangent space (ie. every vector is tangent to some curve).
-
- Then why bother calling it a tangent vector, when calling it a vector would
- suffice? You save typing one word and confusing me with a non-necessary term.
- Or is there some case where a mere vector would not suffice? (see above w=2v)
-
- >Ric Peregrino's problems with what I'm saying may simply be due
- >to not knowing some definitions, namely of "connection" and "tangent
- >vector".
-
- Agreed. Does a tangent vector always have norm = 1? If not, what about the
- definition of direction?
-
- Thanks for the reference. Hope I'm not too stupid.
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