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- From: abian@iastate.edu (Alexander Abian)
- Subject: Re: TIME HAS INERTIA - LOWENHEIM-SKOLEM PARADOX UNDRESSED
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- Summary: Mr. Weiss, please study my MODEL carefully!!!
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- Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
- References: <abian.722113906@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu> <COLUMBUS.92Nov19110954@strident.think.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:41:36 GMT
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- ABIAN replies to WEISS 11-19-92
-
- Mr. Weiss
-
- You wrote :
-
-
- >For the record, the Loewenheim-Skolem paradox is considered a paradox
- >because it says there is a model *of ZFC* which is countable. And ZFC
- >contains the theorem "the power set of omega is uncountable". These two
- >statements are apparently contradictory, hence the paradox.
- >
- >And for any readers who haven't seen this before: the contradiction is only
- >apparent, and is resolved by noting that the bijection between omega and
- >its power-set-within-the-countable-model is not in the model.
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- Abian answers:
-
- Mr. Weiss:
-
-
- But, you failed to read carefully my Model and see that I am giving a
- very good example of THE FALSELY ATTRIBUTING PARADOXICAL NATURE TO THE
- SO CALLED "LOWENHEIM SKOLEM PARADOX"
-
- I am giving the following COUNTABLE MODEL (countable from outside).
- HERE IS A MODEL WITH FIVE SETS (is it a countable enogh model for
- you!- of course FIVE counted from OUTSIDE, in the metalanguage !!!)
-
-
- THE MODEL U is a COUNTABLE MODEL, has only the following five sets:
-
- { } empty set denoted by 0, {0} denoted by 1
-
- {1} , {0, 1} denoted by 2, {1,2}
-
-
- BUT THIS COUNTABLE MODEL HAS AN UNCOUNTABLE SET, namely {1, 2}
- SINCE NONE OF THESE FIVE SETS IS A BIJECTION (with ordered pairs
- as defined in my article to which you refer) FROM 2 onto {1,2}.
- In fact, this COUNTABLE MODEL OF FIVE SETS has FOUR UNCOUNTABLE
- SETS (the 0 being the only countable set).
-
- So, I have exhibited countable (from outside) MODEL WITH FIVE
- SETS WHICH HAS FOUR UNCOUNABLE (in the MODEL) SETS .
-
- And, there is nothing paradoxical about the above and should not
- be called (LOW-SKOL. type paradox - it only intuitively SOUNDS
- paradoxical)
-
- For my purposes I could have given you A MODEL WITH TWO SETS
- WHICH HAS AN UNCOUNTABLE SET., i.e,
-
- The set-theoretical model whose sets are { } and {{ }}.
- In this (countable model - it has TWO sets) the set {{ }} is
- uncountable.
-
- With best wishes and regards,
- Alexander ABIAN
-
- P.S. I hope that there are no typos, I typed in a hurry!
-
-
-
- --
- The tendency of maintaining the status-quo, Reaction to provocation and
- The tendency of maintaining again a status-quo.
- TIME HAS INERTIA and some energy is lost to move Time forward
- E = mcc (Einstein) must be replaced by E = m(0) exp(-At) (Abian)
-