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- From: crawford@boole.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
- Subject: Re: Minimum standards for math "competency"
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.021123.22797@linus.mitre.org>
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:11:23 GMT
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- In article <1339@kepler1.rentec.com> rjfrey@rentec.com (Robert J Frey) writes:
- >[...] an alternate question: What mathematics will students need when they get
- >out into the world REGARDLESS of what is or is not required in your or any
- >other university?
- >
- >The answer in that case is clear. They need a lot more than they're getting!
- [...]
-
- >If you want I can snail mail you a copy of the presentation. Here however are a
- >few facts:
- >
- > o The Jobs Almanac's top 5 jobs are all mathematically based:
- > actuary, computer programmer, systems analyst, mathematician
- > and statistician.
-
- A greater need is anticipated for systems analysts and mathematicians than for
- nurses or accountants? First time I've heard that. Sounds dubious.
-
- >
- > o The math scores of the top 1% of American high school students
- > would place them in the 50th percentile in Japan (that's not
- > a typo). How can we expect to compete with Japan in high tech
- > manufacturing?
-
- Hoo boy! Does this statement need qualification!
-
- In effect, this states that EVERY american student would be below average
- mathematically in Japan.
-
- I'll step out on a limb here and say: RUBBISH! Such a statement _has_ to be
- completely wrong. If the margin between the US and Japan were that great, we'd
- see vast differences between us in virtually every form of technology, including
- patents and major prizes for scientific research, which we don't. We'd find
- ten Japanese students for every American in every non-american and non-japanese
- university, which (I'll bet) we don't.
-
- But perhaps it's just my gross inadequacy in mathematics speaking...
-
- >
- >My recommendations to you are as follows:
- >
- > o Hit 'em with facts, HARD. Good sources: Lester Thurow, Head to
- > Head, Morrow, 1992; and National Academy Press, A Challenge of
- > Numbers: People in the Mathematical Sciences, 1990. These
- > contain extensive references which will point you further.
-
- More power to references.
-
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