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- From: rar@csl.sri.com (Bob Riemenschneider)
- Newsgroups: sci.logic
- Subject: Re: recursive definitions and paradoxes
- Date: 21 Nov 92 17:40:00
- Organization: Computer Science Lab, SRI International, Menlo Park, CA.
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- References: <26841@optima.cs.arizona.edu> <By174J.JBM@unx.sas.com>
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- In-reply-to: sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com's message of Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:19:31 GMT
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- In article <By174J.JBM@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
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- In article <26841@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gudeman@cs.arizona.edu (David Gudeman) writes:
- |>
- |> Exactly. Actually, my notion of definition does not satisfy either of
- |> the two notions you mention. Recursive definitions are creative and
- |> non-eliminable, and for that reason they have to be protected with an
- |> axiom that limits their use. Non-creative, eliminable definitions are
- |> no more than abbreviations, and mathematics cannot be done with such a
- |> sparse notion of definition.
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- I have a vague recollection of a result that any recursive definition
- is eliminable in favor of an explicit definition (Scott? Montague? A faulty
- memory?). ...
-
- Beth's theorem ("Padoa's method is general"), a more-or-less immediate
- consequence of the Craig interpolation lemma. (No doubt Mr. Gudeman
- will be unimpressed, however.)
-
- -- rar
-