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- From: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt)
- Subject: Re: Why Logic?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.014208.6629@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
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- Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
- References: <1992Nov16.091653.1@woods.ulowell.edu> <GUTTMAN.92Nov19120734@circe.mitre.org>
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:42:08 GMT
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- In article <GUTTMAN.92Nov19120734@circe.mitre.org> guttman@circe.mitre.org (Joshua D. Guttman) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.091653.1@woods.ulowell.edu> cotera@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
- >
- > Can anyone explain why we use logic? Unfortunately, any logical arguments to
- > support logic, are unfortunately, invalid.
- > --Ray Cote
- >
- >On the contrary, logical arguments may be not only valid, but also informative.
- >
- >For instance, to explain why we use classical first order logic (for many
- >important purposes), logical theorems such as soundness and completeness are
- >very relevant. So are fancier theorems such as the non-enumerability of
- >consequence in 2nd order logic, or Lindstrom's theorem.
- >
- >Of course it depends what the argument is intended to accomplish. A truly
- >illogical person (perhaps a child) must be trained, not convinced. A logical
- >person who wants to gain insight into what he's doing and why can learn a lot
- >from mathematical logic.
-
- This seems to fall far short of addressing the basic question of why we
- use logic. Why not do all our thinking with just the equations of
- arithmetic? Or the equations of binary relations under composition and
- converse as suggested by Tarski and Givant in "A Formalization of Set
- Theory without Variables."
-
- To me the chief characteristic of logic is its emphasis on sorting out
- situations into *two* cases, whether always successfully (Boolean
- logic) or sometimes not (intuitionistic logic). See my message of Nov.
- 16 arguing this viewpoint in considerable detail.
- --
- Vaughan Pratt A fallacy is worth a thousand steps.
-