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- From: gudeman@cs.arizona.edu (David Gudeman)
- Newsgroups: sci.logic
- Subject: Re: recursive definitions and paradoxes
- Message-ID: <26842@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 17:46:33 GMT
- Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
- Lines: 41
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- In article <1992Nov19.215048.26539@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Vaughan R. Pratt writes:
- ]In article <26788@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gudeman@cs.arizona.edu (David Gudeman) writes:
- ]>But consider the paradoxical definitions
- ]>
- ]> S := {{},R}
- ]> R := {x E S : ~(x E x)} (8)
- ]>
- ]>where the definition of R has exactly the same form as the definition of
- ]>Russell's paradoxical set (replacing S with the universal set). But
- ]>here, S is a set with only two elements! Given such a clear example of
- ]>Russell's paradox by quantifying over a finite set, I don't see how
- ]>anyone can still claim that Russell's paradox is somehow caused by a
- ]>universal set that is "too big". Size has nothing to do with it, the
- ]>only consideration is how it is defined. Clearly in this example the
- ]>problem is an ill-founded mutual recursion between the two set
- ]>definitions.
- ]
- ]Russell's paradox denies the existence of the paradoxical set of all
- ]sets. Denial of an existential is a universal, and the universal
- ]statement asserted by Russell's paradox is that every set has a
- ]nonmember. The universal set is "too big" by one element, having no
- ]nonmember. From that perspective size has everything to do with it.
-
- Your argument, depending as it does on universals, cannot account for
- the finite paradox I present above (nor can it account for a host of
- other logical and "linguistic" paradoxes). Therefore, if you insist
- on this explanation of Russel's paradox, you require two different
- explanations for two very similar paradoxes. I can explain both of
- them at once. Doesn't this give my explanation more credibility?
-
- My explanation of the paradoxes (I claim) applies universally to _all_
- the common paradoxes of logic --including the so-called linguistic
- paradoxes. I've actually gone through a large subset of them to
- verify this. In each case, I could find no way to write the paradox
- without some form of recursion, and in each case, my axiom of
- definition (or its equivalent) would render the paradox harmless.
- Isn't this "unified paradox theory" better than a set of theories that
- requires different explanations for different paradoxes?
- --
- David Gudeman
- gudeman@cs.arizona.edu
-