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- Subject: Re: Why invalid?
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- From: wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor)
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:15:32 GMT
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- |> >Can anyone give me a counterexample of the following:
- |> >
- |> >Let T a consistent first order theory with equality which
- |> >decidable set of quatifier-free logical consequences:
- |> >
- |> > QF(T) = { B | t |= B, B quantifier-free }
- |> >
- |> >Let A be a T-consistent quantifier-free formula.
- |> >Then (T,A) is also a consistent first order logic with
- |> >equality and QF(T,A) is ALSO DECIDABLE.
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- |> Solution follows.
- |>
- |> Take the theory over the language with one constant 0 , one function f(x) ,
- |> one unary predicate P(x), and a binary relation R(x,y), as follows:
- |>
- |> For all x R(0,f(x))
- |> R(0,0)
- |> and for each n in a non-recursive r.e. set, the axioms:
- |>
- |> [ There exists an x such that not R(0,x) ] --> [ P(n) ]
- |>
- |> (where n is the abbreviation of f(x) applied n times to 0 )
- |>
- |> Then one can check that the set of quantifier free sentences that are logical
- |> consequences of this axioms is recursive.
- |>
- |> However if one expands the language with one more constant c , and add the
- |> sentence not R(0,c), then that set becomes non-recursive. [if you dont allow
- |> an expansion of the language, then it can be shown that there is no counter-
- |> example].
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- I don't quite get this comment. If the constant c is in the original language,
- but with no extra axioms, isn't the original theory still decidable for
- quantifier-free formulas ? And thus isn't the example now a counterexample
- of the type originally required ?
-
- Help sort me out please, somebody.
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