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- From: holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: Logic and Mathematicians
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:49:12 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov15.191744.17481@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov15.220359.21971@guinness.idbsu.edu>
- >holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1992Nov14.141234.26280@email.tuwien.ac.at>
- >>zach@csdec1.tuwien.ac.at writes:
- >
- >>>In article <1992Nov12.204959.17389@husc3.harvard.edu>,
- >>>zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
- >
- >MZ:
- >>>>I offer Post's problem as a counterexample. Also, it doesn't seem
- >>>>that there could be a solution for "P =? NP" that would render the
- >>>>problem silly in retrospect.
- >
- >RZ:
- >>>Oh yes: Prove P=NP is independent of ZFC. It actuall HAS
- >>>been shown independent in some weak arithmetics.
- >
- >Funny, I would have thought independence to be indicative of
- >foundational profundity, rather than triviality.
- >
- >>>--
- >>>Richard Zach Technische Universitaet Wien
- >>>[zach@csdec1.tuwien.ac.at] Abteilung fuer Formale Logik 185.2
- >
- >RH:
- >>Wouldn't that actually answer the question?
- >
- >Only from the standpoint of a formalist.
-
- No, I think it might answer it from a realist standpoint, but I'm
- having trouble chasing quantifiers around in my head; I can't tell
- without sitting down and thinking about it, and I have things to do...
- I was hoping that someone would know the answer.
-
-
- >
- >>--
- >>The opinions expressed --Sincerely,
- >>above are not the "official" M. Randall Holmes
- >>opinions of any person Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- >>or institution. holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
- >
- >cordially,
- >mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
- >" -- I shall speak bluntly, because life is short."
-
-
- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
-