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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
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- Subject: Re: What is Computer Science (was: Natural Kinds)
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- Date: 15 Nov 92 18:48:06 GMT
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- In article <BxGBsJ.8qG@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
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- >In article <1992Nov9.005241.29492@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:
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- >|> To me computer science is about four interactions: information and
- >|> time, computation and communication, models and reality, and
- >|> perspective and users. Discreteness is neither emphasized nor
- >|> deemphasized in this view, the integers and the reals are both
- >|> important in CS.
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- >Do you see CS as having any immediate empirical content in the
- >manner of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.? If so, could you
- >describe this a bit? (I concede that "immediate empirical
- >content" is not very precise, but I think we know what is
- >intended.) It seems pretty clear that given your view of the
- >nature of CS, it really has nothing to do with actual physical
- >machines, but rather more properly deals with "machines" in the
- >logical (mathematical) sense (Turing machines, for example).
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- >Your view of CS is a coherent one, but I'm not sure
- >how widely received it would be. Simply as a matter of your
- >own personal opinion, do you think this view is widely shared
- >(in both academia and industry), or do you offer it rather along
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- This is a source of contention in CS where many academics have followed
- such savants as Hoare in insisting that the objects of interest in CS
- are certain mathematical objects, while others consider CS to be
- concerned with the study of computing devices and their programs.
- In my very humble opinion, the work informed by the first view is generally
- rather trivial from both mathematical and engineering perspectives.
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