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- From: johan@swi.psy.uva.nl (Johan Henselmans)
- Subject: Re: postpositive articles in English
- Message-ID: <By0nyB.7nM@swi.psy.uva.nl>
- Organization: Social Science Informatics
- References: <1992Nov19.190026.937@almserv.uucp> <1992Nov19.215659.4152@memstvx1.memst.edu>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:25:22 GMT
- Lines: 38
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- connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
-
- >In article <1992Nov19.190026.937@almserv.uucp>, alufml@fnma.COM (Francois-Michel Lang) writes:
- >> In French, certain articles can appear either
- >> (1) after the noun they modify, in which case
- >> the adjective has its basic meaning, or
- >> (2) before the noun, in which case the sense
- >> of the adjective is metaphorical.
- >>
- >> E.g.,
- >> "un sale voleur" (adjective noun) = "a [morally] filthy thief"
- >> "un voleur sale" (noun adjective" = "a [physically] filthy thief"
- >>
- >> Are there are examples of such behaviour in English? It doesn't
- >> even have to involve a transfer of sense; just an adjective that
- >> can occur both pre-nominally and post-nominally would be good to see.
- >> The only example I can come up with is something like "the city proper".
-
- >There are some fossilized expressions of this sort in English:
-
- > knight errant
- > durance vile
- > Chicken Little
-
- >But these examples are true fossils; other nouns and adjectives cannot
- >be substituted, and the adjective cannot be compared. In other words,
- >there is no _*knight peripatetic_ or _*musician errant_, and certainly
- >no _*durance vilest_. _Proper_ is unusual, perhaps unique, in that it
- >is only postpositive in this usage and can be used after many other nouns
- >than _city_. But even _proper_ cannot then be compared (_*city most
- >proper_).
-
- >--Leo Connolly
-
- How about adjectives such as "enough", "aplenty" and "galore" which
- often appear after the noun they qualify.
-
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