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- From: gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
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- Subject: The Criterion for Ecocentrism
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- References: <Yf2M8Nq00iV3888JQW@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 02:34:55 GMT
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- In article <Yf2M8Nq00iV3888JQW@andrew.cmu.edu> ss9o+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
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- > There have already been assignment of atmospheric rights to a degree.
- > The US has recognized its use of Canada's air; Sweden and Germany are
- > trying to get Poland to stop using up their clean air. Certainly, it
- > would be absurd to take this assignment of rights all the way down to
- > the individual, but whay not at least to the country level ? Or in the
- > US to the state level.
-
- This entire notion of "state rights" to air is bizarre. The premises
- are simply upside down. The air contained by the earth's atmosphere is
- simply there, a priori, as an essential precondition to our existence.
- While individuals and groups pollute that air and so threaten our
- existence, it is a very simple matter indeed to track them down and
- impose sanctions on them.
-
- > I don't understand how these taxes are levied and how they could
- > increase employment. If the government is still collecting the same
- > amount of revenue, then you have to show that the pollution tax is
- > somehow less distorting than current taxes. The only possibility for a
- > net gain is if the reduction in the external costs of pollution are
- > greater than the increase in prices due to the taxes on polluters.
-
- The assignment of responsibility "all the way down to the individual"
- is not at all absurd. The Australian practice is purely and simply
- "polluter pays"; if the company is obliged to pass on to the consumers
- of its products the costs of keeping its operation clean, that's fine,
- without legislative or judicial involvement at all further to their
- nominal role as regulatory infrastructure.
-
- The point I must make here is simply in recognition of substantial
- costs (*not* "external costs" since each participant is part of the
- one single system of production and consumption) involved with human
- activities, compared to the superficial costs we have discussed here
- on a previous occasion. If the product is considered too expensive
- people simply will not care to buy it, and the company will go out of
- business.
-
- There is nothing complicated about it.
-
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