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- From: abrown@hpcvcec.cv.hp.com (Allen Brown)
- Subject: Re: Greenpeace: Anti-US feelings
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.025905.24216@hpcvca.cv.hp.com>
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:59:05 GMT
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- stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
- : In article <1992Nov18.031743.1834@hpcvca.cv.hp.com>, abrown@hpcvcec.cv.hp.com (Allen Brown) writes:
- >> We are not leading the world. In energy conservation the US is dead
- >> last in the developed world. Would you like to list some of the areas
- >> where the US is supposedly ahead?
-
- > US leads environmentally in just about every category.
-
- > Auto emissions control.
- > elimination of lead from gasoline.
- With the exception of California and possibly NY I believe Japan is
- ahead of the USA in these two.
-
- > scrubbers for coal combustion.
- > electrostatic precipitators for ore and metal processing.
- > sewage processing.
- > wilderness protection.
- You could be right with these four. I just don't know.
-
- > governmental mechanisms for smog abatement.
- This is too vague to address in a short amount of time.
-
- > recycling.
- At least with bottle recycling Norway is ahead of USA.
-
- > etc.
- Speaking of vague...
-
- > The US is not "dead last" in energy conservation. We consume energy per
- > capita than any other country, but we also produce more per capita and
- > have a higher standard of living.
- Excuse me? That we produce and consume more is not justification that
- we have good energy conservation. This statement is just weird.
-
- > Energy consumption says nothing about conservation.
- > We may be using the most efficient
- > equipment and processes in the world to do what we do - but we just do more.
-
- In fact that is not the case. Japan produces more that the USA per
- energy unit.
-
- > You should really read about the US environmental record (as a whole) and
- > compare it to that of other countries - you might learn a lot. Hearing
- > about a few isolated cases of this or that really does not give you a
- > picture of reality.
- > Richard Stead
- I offer you the same suggestion.
- --
- Allen C. Brown abrown@cv.hp.com or hplabs!hpcvca!abrown or "Hey you!"
- Not representing my employer.
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