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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: Renewable Energy - solar
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.060352.20615@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
- References: <1992Nov12.171616.3162@nic.csu.net> <51470@seismo.CSS.GOV> <1992Nov14.185409.17561@ke4zv.uucp> <Nov18.182720.65718@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:03:52 GMT
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- In article <Nov18.182720.65718@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kk881595@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu writes:
- >In article <1992Nov14.185409.17561@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >|> Actually, all the approaches listed, with the exception of geothermal,
- >|> *are* solar energy. And *all* have better efficiency than *direct* solar.
- >|> However, the *most* efficient collectors of solar energy remain *plants*.
- >|> Burning plants, freshly dead, or concentrated under tons of rocks for
- >|> eons, is still the most efficient use of solar energy. And there is very
- >|> little capital cost involved with setting up the "plants." :-)
- >|>
- >
- >I wonder what you mean by efficient. If one considers the
- >solar energy hitting a leaf, photosynthesis converting that energy,
- >the plant forming cellulose from that energy, that cellulose
- >being collected by humans, then burned to produce heat, that heat
- >converted to work that is then converted to electricity as
- >the system, do you really claim that this is more efficient
- >than even the worst photovoltaic cell? If one added the
- >additional processes involved in converting the plant to
- >fossil fuel then the "efficiency" would be even worse.
-
- Ah, but unlike photovoltaic cells, or solar thermal collectors,
- it costs us nothing, or nearly nothing to deploy organic solar
- collectors. Converting that energy to readily usable combustibles
- also costs us nothing. Our only cost is that of recovery, and that's
- only a fraction of the cost of photovoltaics.
-
- Whether the *thermodynamic* efficiency of photovoltaics is higher
- or not, I can't say, but the *economic* efficiency of plants as
- energy collectors is a clear winner.
-
- Gary
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