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- From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead)
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- Subject: Re: Renewable Energy - solar
- Message-ID: <51479@seismo.CSS.GOV>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 17:27:48 GMT
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- In article <XX5SBJHH@cc.swarthmore.edu>, dpeders1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Pedersen) writes:
- > Richard Stead mentioned that not all places are like So.Cal - some of them
- > have clouds.
- >
- > On a partly cloudy day, our data shows that when the sky is overcast, the
- > beam component drops by a large amount, and the diffuse radiation
- > increases. I can explain this by assuming that the beam component striking
- > the clouds is converted to diffuse radiation. When the normal beam
- > radiation dropped to zero, the diffuse radiation rose to 250 and even 300
- > W/m^2. So there is a large amount of radiation available even on overcast
- > days. (for reference, during the sunny parts of this day the values of the
- > different forms of the radiation were close to the values listed above).
-
- I have a question - is it possible that some of this energy is infrared
- radiation being radiated from the earth's surface and the objects on it that
- were heated while the sun was out? True - this is still recoverable solar
- energy, but I am curious if your number would change significantly on a
- day which was completely overcast at all times. This is not unusual.
- I just spent two weeks near Moscow, and I did not see the sun the entire
- time. Nevertheless, I agree that even diffuse solar energy may have
- some role in satisfying energy needs - supplying hot water for heating
- and whatever is probably the most promising.
-
- > So while I disagree that the alternative energy forms are as unreliable as
- > the author of the paper states (sorry, forgot your name!), I also disagree
- > with Richard when he writes off solar energy because of cloud cover. My
- > prof says that his research shows that a solar collector system can be
- > viable in the Philadelphia area, which is often cloudy.
-
- I'm sorry - I really didn't mean to give the impression I was anti-solar.
- I'd like to think I'm pro-solar, I even did a solar energy "research" in
- high school. I just don't think it's a panacea, nor do I think it can
- provide for a majority of our energy needs. I think it ought to be
- applied when practical, with balanced consideration of all factors.
-
- > We are now running a heating system simulation on the collectors (hot water
- > + antifreeze), and have had some cloudy days. At the end of next week we
- > should have some good results regarding the performance of the collector as
- > a heating source.
-
- Please let us know how it turns out.
-
-
- --
- Richard Stead
- Center for Seismic Studies
- Arlington, VA
- stead@seismo.css.gov
-