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- From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
- Subject: Re: jobs, again
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:00:47 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.231617.8530@midway.uchicago.edu> sug6@amber.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>
- >> I hope it's not too late for him to reconsider his major: Total
- >> employment by computer professionals in the US has dropped in
- >> *each* of the last 4 years (i.e., since BEFORE the recession began)
- >> and overall more jobs have been lost in the computer industry than
- >> in the auto industry during the same time (source: EE Times). Right
- >> now THE ONLY source that I've found projecting even *modest* growth
- >> in computer-related jobs is Megan Barkume of the BLS (a *government*
- >> agency, for Mr. Hranicky's information), and Barkume made the same
- >> projection five years ago and we saw how that turned out!
- >>
- >true for what is technically the "computer industry". Since January
- >of 1989 the "computer industry" has lost about 154,000 jobs. This is
- >more than the auto industry (as you say). However, in 1991 (when
- >it lost 15,000 jobs) most of the job loss was in administration,
- >marketing, and support personnel.
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- > The Labor department estimates 56% growth in computer programmers by
- > 2005 and 80% growth in systems analysts in the same time frame.
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- But the BLS has been making wildly optimistic claims about employment
- for years. The AEA has complained repeatedly about their methodology
- projections and results. If you look at their projections for
- hardware engineers for the period of 1988-1992 and compare it to
- reality it illustrates their problems. Megan Barkume, the economist
- at BLS responsible for these projections has a truly terrible track record.
- For an alternative view see Edward Yourdon's _Decline and Fall of the
- American Programmer_.
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- The June 1 1992 issue of EE Times showed flat growth for Q1 of
- this year, again counter to BLS' predictions.
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- ---peter
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