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- From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
- Subject: Re: Taxes and stocks (mostly)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.213412.5029@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- References: <1992Nov16.125105.5632@desire.wright.edu> <1992Nov16.202148.24943@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov17.171007.5661@desire.wright.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:34:12 GMT
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- I'll leave out most of Brett's errors (and one of mine: you have to
- disgorge stocks for thirty days, apparentally, to have the taxes kick
- in) to concentrate on the smoking gun.
-
- In article <1992Nov17.171007.5661@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.202148.24943@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@quads.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
- >>> No, just that their numbers are within the noise ratio.
- >>
- >> But, Brett there was a *spike*. It's clear that the numbers aren't within
- >> the noise ratio.
- >
- > Year: Revenue from cap gains (millions):
- >[...]
- > 1979 $11,669
- > 1980 $12,459
- > 1981 $12,684
- > 1982 $12,900
- > 1983 $18,500
- > 1984 $21,800
- > 1985 $26,500
- > 1986 $49,700_______rate increase here
- > 1987 $32,900_______crash here
- > 1988 $38,900
- > 1989 $36,020
-
- Can anyone look at those numbers and say that there wasn't a spike in 1986?
-
- In twenty years, there isn't a one-year increase of more than 45%, then
- suddenly there's an increase of 85% and that's not a spike?
-
- > You can argue that $50k is a spike *caused* by the rate hike, but you
- >can't argue that the revenues have not declined since then.
-
- Sure I can. 1987 is higher than 1985. 1988 and 1989 are each higher than
- 1987. 1986 is an anomaly caused by between $20 and $25 billion in people
- taking advantage of tax breaks, and not useful in predicting trends.
-
- Or do you expect a figure that's artifically high because of an exogenous
- shock to remain artifically high when that shock is removed?
- --
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