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- From: s462075d@edinboro.edu
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: Trade War?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.095601.9143@edinboro.edu>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 14:56:01 GMT
- References: <6NOV92.03424517@skyfox.usask.ca> <1992Nov6.164840.1526@bnr.ca> <BxB4ME.9BC@apollo.hp.com>
- Organization: Edinboro University of Pennsylvania
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- In article <BxB4ME.9BC@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
- >
- > I think US policy is stupid and indefensible on 3 counts:
- >
- >
- > 1. The entire world economy is very shaky just now; the last
- > thing it needs is a trade war. We should all be trying
- > to INCREASE the volume of world trade.
- >
- The problem is everyone wants to increase it by EXPORTING and not
- buying anything in return.
-
- >
- > 2. France, et al, are democracies. Their voters have made it
- > clear that they WANT some of their tax money to be used for
- > agricultural subsidies. What the US is, in effect, saying
- > to the EC officials is that they should ignore the wishes of
- > their own voters and instead follow OUR dictates. This
- > sounds "imperialistic" to me. I don't see how we can
- > morally justify this while at the same time allegedly trying
- > to promote democracy around the world.
- >
- Can you say "special intrests", "farm lobby?" These are just two
- of the groups that restrict various AMERICAN imports/production
- Examples include: sugar, tobacco, peanuts. Is there no reason to
- believe France has the same "farm lobby" type problem in their
- country. Do you live in the USA? If so, you pay 10X the world
- price for sugar. Do you, as a voter, want it that way?
-
- >
- > 3. If French taxpayers are willing to subsidize MY purchase
- > of canola oil, in effect taking money out of their own
- > pockets and putting into mine, why should we/I object?
- > In doing so they are conducting a transfer of wealth to
- > the US economy. They are also providing the motivation
- > necessary to encourage US oil-seed makers to become more
- > efficient, lower their prices, and so forth. It sounds
- > like a net win.
-
- Yeah, like the Japanese subsidised Americans who purchased Toyotas,
- Hondas, Nissans, etc. Look at what happened to the auto industry.
- Local farms, no matter how big, will not withstand subsidation like
- that. How can they compete with the resources of a whole nation?
-
-
- > 3b. While the US may be protecting some jobs in their oilseed
- > industry, they are threatening jobs in other industries.
- > Specialty food and wine importers, restaurants, etc in
- > the immediate term, and just about any industry you can
- > name if this spins out of control.
- >
-
- I'm all for sacrificing a few $4.25/hr restaurant jobs in the near-term.
- With the savings from US farm subsidies in the long term, we propably
- could make up all the lost income in a year or too.
-
- Don't get me wrong, I'm all for free trade. When you find it, I'll
- renounce my citezenship and come live with you in fantasyland :-) Every
- country has its special intrests that must be dealt with, each in the
- way most approiate for that country/situation.
-
- Shawn Duffy
- Edinboro University of PA
- USA
-