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- From: srt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Stephen R. Tate)
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Subject: Re: Cryptography and P=NP
- Message-ID: <722273385@pike.cs.duke.edu>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 15:29:46 GMT
- References: <1992Nov19.193036.26711@rchland.ibm.com> <722206613@pike.cs.duke.edu> <1992Nov20.100712.7550@nntp.nta.no>
- Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.
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- In article <1992Nov20.100712.7550@nntp.nta.no> klaus@hal.nta.no (Klaus Gaarder FNI) writes:
- >In article <722206613@pike.cs.duke.edu>, srt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Stephen R. Tate) writes:
- >|> To re-iterate: programs that cannot
- >|> be counted on to halt are very, very, very rare. Most people will never
- >|> see one.
- >
- >Unless Mr Tate has a fairly restriced view of 'programs' I must say:
- >
- >"Surely you're joking Mr Tate?"...
- >
- >I DO hope my Unix instance never halts...so
- >in fact most computer users see a program never halting EVERY SINGLE DAY,
- >namely their favourite OS!!
-
- Ok, ok. Several people have pointed things like this out to me. But
- remember the context of my comment. We're talking about P vs. NP, and
- algorithms for decision problems. In other words, the entire point of
- running the algorithm is to arrive at a single answer. In fact, most
- definitions of algorithm include the condition that the algorithm halt
- in a finite amount of time. An OS may not halt, but it's not a program
- designed to get an answer, and is not in the least considered an
- "algorithm" in the sense of algorithms studied for complexity theory.
-
- I used the term "program" rather than algorithm trying to be informal,
- and because it's what the original poster used. I suppose it was a
- mistake....
-
-
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- Steve Tate srt@cs.duke.edu | The reason why mathematics enjoys special esteem,
- Dept. of Computer Science | above all other sciences, is that its laws are
- Duke University | absolutely certain and indisputable, while those of all
- Durham, NC 27706 | other sciences are to some extent debatable. (Einstein)
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