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- From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
- Subject: Re: PGP and real criminals
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.173525.18074@convex.com>
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:35:25 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.001101.21926@ncar.ucar.edu> prz@sage.cgd.ucar.edu (Philip Zimmermann) writes:
- >If we are to prevent the electorate from backing legislation that
- >will make cryptography a crime, we must have articulate agruments
- >that will reach normal people with normal values. Some of what I've
- >seen lately does not meet that requirement.
- Sometimes you have to let the system break before it can
- be fixed. The electorate has authorized all sorts of
- abominations lately. The one that sticks most firmly
- in my craw is civil forfeiture. It has been my experience
- that normal people with normal values hold some pretty outrageous
- positions about race, sex, gender, freedom, civil rights etc.
-
- >What I now read from some of you folks smacks of the same level of
- >fanaticism as my old marginalized hardliner leftist friends with their
- >Politically Correct preaching to the choir. They used to incessantly
- >bicker amongst themselves over who had the most orthodox P.C.
- >position. We used to have a joke-- "Q: How do you make a leftist
- >firing squad? A: Line everyone up in a big circle." Sound
- >familiar? How are we ever going to reach the electorate?
- Fanaticism is part and parcel of free speech. One man's
- fanaticism is another man's reasonable position. Spirited
- public debate, and heated discussion is an old tradition
- in America.
-
- Have you considered the possibility that you may be
- wasting your time trying to explain cryptography to the electorate
- of a nation in which most people have not mastered 8th grade
- math? Sad but true.
-
- And another thing dammit! ;-) I can't help grimacing whenever I hear
- someone use the word "politically correct". That little phrase has
- been the biggest success story in the right wing's campaign
- to ridicule diversity. Even people on the left seem to use it.
- Its a red herring and it is usually used to batter people into
- being silent on issues of racism and sexism. If you complain of
- insensitivity to the feelings of any group OTHER than hetero-sexual
- WASPS you are being "politically correct". Right!
-
-
-
- >I suppose these remarks will disillusion some of my PGP fans. Oh well.
- On the contrary, spirited debate is necessary for the truth
- to come out. True believers in freedom welcome your point of view
- even if they thing you are totally off base.
-
- >I'm going to be out of town for a few days this week. I dread the
- >500 backlogged testosterone-driven sci.crypt postings that will
- >certainly be piled up when I return. Damn. When will the newsgroup
- >ever get back to normal?
- Perhaps when they outlaw testosterone along with marijuana
- and public key cryptography. ;-) Maybe we need a war on
- gonads. ;-)
-
-
- smg
-
-