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- From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
- Subject: Re: Triple DES
- In-Reply-To: WHMurray@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:36:00 GMT
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- Date: 16 Nov 92 13:25:59
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- >2. Has triple DES actually been proven to be stronger than a single
- > DES encryption? I guess this boils down to whether DES has been
- > proven to be a group.
-
- No. The inventors assert that DES is composable under most circumstances.
- (See Matyas and Meyers). However, the independent evaluators are
- silent. IBM notes in passing that an exhaustive attack against a
- 112 bit would require all of the energy from all of the coal and oil
- likely to recovered in the continental US for the next five hundred
- years.
-
- Could you explain this some more? I don't understand what you
- mean by "composable under most circumstances". (We know now that DES
- is *not* a group, per discussion here a few months ago).
-