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- From: bgrahame@eris.demon.co.uk (Robert D Grahame)
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- Subject: Convincing others of cryonics?
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- References: <1992Nov16.151921.17649@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:01:19 +0000
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- In article <1992Nov16.151921.17649@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> wk5w@brain.med.virginia.edu writes:
-
- >Huh? How do you figure you get "extra" life by cryonics? You assume there
- If you can fix the freezing damage, you can fix quite a lot more ills a lot
- easier.
- >increase in the future. What about new viruses (like a super-AIDS) or
- >ozone destruction or ....
- If things are that bad, why would anyone bother reviving the suspended?
-
- >Any increase in life expectency would be due to advances at the time of
- >reawakening. This assumes alot.
- It does (IMHO). But if the advances don't happen, I don't get revived, so I'm
- around until they *do*, or the suspension is disrupted for some reason. If
- the whole idea is flawed, and I cease to be around before suspension (eg.
- pearly gates, or more mundane irreverible brain death, then all I've lost is
- the cost of my life insurance.
-
- >Are you only talking about cryonics for terminally ill patients? Because if
- >you are not talking about terminally ill patients, I'd like to hear what
- >sort of system (besides vaporware) you are describing. I am not aware of
- >ANY use of cryonics on human subjects (even the legal implications are
-
- I think so. Revival of current suspensions is still vapourware (although some
- people are talking of possible release dates :-) ). There are quite a few
- people already suspended though, and many more who have made arrangements
- with one or other of the organisations that offer this service. (I've not
- done so, BTW, though I am considering it).
-
- >severe). How can you describe unknown "odds" of cryonics then, and even
- >compare them with proven medical methods like cancer therapy. By the way,
- >"cancer therapy" is a very broad label which lumps together methods
- >with 90+% success rates to sub 20% success rates. There are many forms of
- >cancer, all with different therapies and prognoses.
- Quite so, the odds are 'better' (IMHO) than they were a few years back, but
- there are still too many unknowns to put figures on them. Give me
- chemotherapy over an ice-bath any day!
-
- >-Bill
-
- Regards,
-
- -- Bob Grahame, Streatham, London. LAN Consultant
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