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- From: wk5w@brain.med.virginia.edu (William Katz)
- Subject: Re: Convincing others of cryonics?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.151921.17649@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Organization: Medical Scientist Training Program, Univ of Virginia
- References: <1992Nov15.202437.13829@hellgate.utah.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:19:21 GMT
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- This is the first article I have read in this newsgroup. So if there
- has been prior discussion of subjects, I am unaware of it.
-
- In article <1992Nov15.202437.13829@hellgate.utah.edu> tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:
- >
- >2) Cryonics makes good gambling sense. (I posted a long note about this
- >months ago) You are basically gambling, with an investment and with
- >a possible return. Therefore figure out how much (100 years or so) extra life
- >is worth, and what your investment return is. For anyone who is not an
- >idiot, it makes good economic sense as an investment.
- >
- Huh? How do you figure you get "extra" life by cryonics? You assume there
- would be no wear and tear on the body due to any cryonic process, but you
- also assume that life expectency and quality of life will continue to
- increase in the future. What about new viruses (like a super-AIDS) or
- ozone destruction or ....
-
- Any increase in life expectency would be due to advances at the time of
- reawakening. This assumes alot.
-
- >3) Cryonics is merely another medical procedure, and a lot less costly than
- >many other medical procedures. For instance, the entire cost of cancer
- >therapy, or of any major disease. These procedures most reasonable people
- >undertake, with perhaps the same (or less) odds than cryonics. (How about
- >the cost of AIDS... which is certainly terminal, odds are even worse here)
- >
- Are you only talking about cryonics for terminally ill patients? Because if
- you are not talking about terminally ill patients, I'd like to hear what
- sort of system (besides vaporware) you are describing. I am not aware of
- ANY use of cryonics on human subjects (even the legal implications are
- severe). How can you describe unknown "odds" of cryonics then, and even
- compare them with proven medical methods like cancer therapy. By the way,
- "cancer therapy" is a very broad label which lumps together methods
- with 90+% success rates to sub 20% success rates. There are many forms of
- cancer, all with different therapies and prognoses.
-
- -Bill
-