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- From: holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: Folk Theories of Meaning (was re: Theories of meaning not relying solely on sym)
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:30:10 GMT
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- In article <71kqssj@lynx.unm.edu> lgorbet@carina.unm.edu (Larry P Gorbet ANTHROPOLOGY) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov17.162358.22391@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >>I agree with Mikhail that logic is a moral obligation, but I don't
- >>think that sentences have "meanings" (the sentences themselves do fine
- >>as propositions, and refer to their truth-values). It is possible to
- >>analyze the reference of sentences formally, and no "meanings" prove
- >>to be needed (and this is on the level of semantics, not syntax).
- >
- >So sentences which differ in that the words _radius_, _hypotenuse_,
- >_chord_ (etc.) are interchanged are all synonymous, since these terms have
- >identical reference in all cases (since each line segment in the
- >Euclidean plane is a radius, is a hypotenuse,....). My point is that
- >reduction of meaning to reference gives up most of the reason we have
- >a word _meaning_ in the first place.
- >
-
- This is nonsense. Words like "radius", "hypotenuse", and "chord" are
- implicit relation terms (radius of what circle?) -- they do not simply
- refer to a line, but indicate its relation to some other geometrical
- figure as well, so they are not interchangeable.
-
- "The square on the hypotenuse is the sum of the squares on the legs"
- is not intertranslatable with "the square on the radius is the sum of
- the squares on the legs" (the latter being nonsense) because the first
- sentence abbreviates a sentence of the form "For any right triangle T,
- the square on the hypotenuse of T is the sum of the squares on the
- legs of T". In the latter form of the sentence, it is clear why
- substituting "radius" for "hypotenuse" would be silly (T does not have
- a radius).
-
- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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