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- From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
- Newsgroups: sci.cognitive,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.lang,sci.philosophy.meta
- Subject: Folk Theories of Meaning (was re: Theories of meaning not relying solely on sym)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.122343.17501@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 17:23:42 GMT
- Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov16.122343.17501
- References: <1992Nov15.172021.17474@husc3.harvard.edu> <1992Nov16.125741.22619@news.Hawaii.Edu>
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- In article <1992Nov16.125741.22619@news.Hawaii.Edu>
- lee@Hawaii.Edu (Greg Lee) writes:
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- >Michael Zeleny (zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu) wrote:
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- >>cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
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- >>>lee@Hawaii.Edu (Greg Lee) writes:
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- GL:
- >>>>Paraphrases are expressions that mean the
- >>>>same thing, so there must be a thing that they mean, and once we've
- >>>>found it, we'll know why they are paraphrases.
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- CM:
- >>>Reification rides again! Why must there be such a thing? Why could not
- >>>paraphrases be identifiable simply by a certain kind of transformation
- >>>capable of turning one into another?
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- MZ:
- >>This is a bogus objection, Chris. ...
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- GL:
- >I didn't see Chris's followup, so I'm taking this opportunity to
- >agree with him. I was just kidding. "Mean the same thing" is
- >just a manner of speaking, perhaps reflecting some folk theory
- >which, however, we're under no obligation to accept.
-
- Who's that "we", kemosabe? If you don't feel that being bound by
- logic is a *moral* obligation, would you still have any basis for a
- reasonable expectation that your tooting your car's horn at a bunch of
- Samoan Hell's Angels does not *mean* your informed consent for them to
- peel off your skin and rip out your heart? Do you have a glimmer of
- understanding that your human rights are not worth the market value of
- the chemicals that comprise your anatomy, *if* there be no such things
- as matters of fact about meaning?
-
- cordially,
- mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
- " -- I shall speak bluntly, because life is short."
-