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- From: fhd@panix.com (Frank Deutschmann)
- Newsgroups: rec.scuba
- Subject: Re: Sawtooth Profiles - Why not ?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.214344.1809@panix.com>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 21:43:44 GMT
- References: <1992Nov23.124617.18245@csd.uwe.ac.uk> <1992Nov23.201549.27366@panix.com>
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- Figured I should clarify this before it is flamed by one of the
- self-appointed Guardians of the Scuba Truth out there:
-
- In <1992Nov23.201549.27366@panix.com> fhd@panix.com (Frank Deutschmann) writes:
- >underlying causes of both narcosis and O2 toxicity. It is known that
- >CO2 accumulation affects both (primarily through increasing acidosis
- >of the blood), but it is not known why that has any more severe effect
- >that experienced in (other) athletes (runners usually don't
- >halucinate/convulse after running a 10K :)). In the case of nitrogen,
- >it is known that narcosis is not (substantially) related to the
- >effects of Nitrous Oxide (whose effects seem similar). It is
-
- The acidosis (in the blood) I refered to is a direct result of
- increased partial pressures of O2 (caused by saturation of Hb with
- O2, which is a result of dissolved O2 [versus Hb-bound O2] satisfying
- cell needs). With Hb already tied up with O2, the blood and cells begin to
- experience acidosis (accumulation of CO2, because the Hb is not
- available to carry it), which the body's carbonate
- buffer system can only stave off for so long (dependent upon time of
- exposure, rate of CO2 production, ambiant pressure, and quantity of O2
- delivered, as well as the condition/capacity of the buffer system).
- From what I understand, endurance athletes experience localized
- cellular acidosis, but they don't experience acidosis in the brain; in
- particular, they don't experience Hb occupied with O2 on the venous
- side of the circulation system, which is thought to be the primary
- cause of seziures (by some researchers).
-
- One of the thoughts relating to the way NO2 causes narcosis-like
- symptoms is that it may locally increase O2 and N2 saturation in
- parts of the brain, but this is widely disputed. Not all researchers
- agree with the implication of above-normal PO2 exposure (hyperoxic)in
- narcosis (in other words, if air at 150FSW, say, resulted in some X
- amount of narcosis, then replacing some of the O2 with another gas
- [which is not narcotic at the depth] to produce a more normoxic mix
- would result in some <X amount of narcosis). In fact, current tri-mix
- technology explicitly discounts this possibility, though some
- researchers believe in the connection.
-
- Just some clarification...remember that this is all theory, and, as
- such, probably has little application to "normal" diving (in other
- words, I would strongly discourage an attempt to increase O2
- tollerance by strengthening your carbonate buffer system by way of
- drugs, etc...).
-
- --
- -frank
- (fhd@panix.com)
-