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- From: alane@microsoft.com (Alan Ezekiel)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: Bad tactical position ( was Psychology in Defense)
- Message-ID: <9211171828.aa12615@ingate.microsoft.COM>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 15:13:24 GMT
- Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
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- Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu
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- scylax!tiglath@uunet.UU.NET writes:
-
- [when do you shoot a perpetrator you are holding at gunpoint?]
-
- #Waiting him out is not safe. He may be waiting for his mate or mates.
-
- You cannot shoot a perpetrator because he MAY have friends nearby.
- According to Massad Ayoob, any time you have to say "what if..."
- in order to justify your actions, you should not fire. That is
- known as "bare fear" -- you ASSUMED facts not in evidence because
- you were afraid. Bare fear is not sufficient grounds to kill.
-
- #A. The perp has hurt someone in my family, I am holding him at gunpoint.
- #again he doesn't obey but indicates he wants to go, call it quits,
- #and gently, unmenacingly, he moves to leave. Do I let him go?
-
- The law requires you to let him leave. Vengance is mine, sayeth
- the US legal system.
-
- #B. Some one is picking the lock. I heard the noise and I see a black
- #clad figure slowly entering the now open balcony door. I am behind the
- #door armed, do I shoot first?
-
- If a criminal intruder has forced entry into your bedroom, you will
- generally be justified to shoot. Note that you must still positively
- identify your target -- you would not wish to shoot a member of your
- family who forgot their keys.
-
- #C. The good guy is sick, old and weak. He holds the perp at
- #gunpoint in his small bedroom, the perp has a knife in his waist. he is
- #young, muscular, large...
-
- In this circumstance, our old/sick/weak defender should never have
- issued verbal commands at all. He should have shot the intruder
- without warning.
-
- Why? Because all three elements of the threat triangle (ability,
- opportunity, jeopardy) are fulfilled in this case, and the defender
- has no reasonable nonlethal options. Remember the Tueller drill: at
- close range (such as within a small bedroom) the person who decides
- to act first will win, regardless of their choice of weapon. Human
- reaction times are not fast enough to allow an effective defense if
- the intruder acts first. Issuing a challenge in such circumstances,
- especially considering the defender's physical state, would be very
- unwise.
-
- -- Alane --
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