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- From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: T/C pistol iron sight question...
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- Date: 19 Nov 92 15:06:23 GMT
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- minh@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov (Minh Lang) writes:
-
- No one else jumped in so I'll give it a shot.
-
- #Hi, I have a question that I would appreciate
- #any help. I have a T/C 10" 44 magnum with
- #a factory iron sight. Using an electronic
- #caliper, I measured the rear sight's height
- #at different clicks and this is what I got:
- #- with the rear sight all the way down, it's
- # 2.020 inches.
- #- with 5 clicks up, 2.045"
- #- with 10 clicks up, 2.063"
- #- with 15 clicks up, 2.084"
- #- with 20 clicks up, 2.108"
- #- with 25 clicks up, 2.128"
- #The click adjustments are not consistent. I am wondering
- #is this a common problem wihth the factory iron sight?
-
- Yep. That's why many of us production class Silhouette shooters lap the
- clicker on the sight and then keep a little 3X5 card with sight
- settings on it. The big concern is repeatability, something the T/C
- sight does quite well, particularly after being lapped.
-
- #If it is, is there any iron sight that gives consistent
- #clicks and it can fit the T/C without drilling and tapping?
- #(Such as Williams ro Lyman?)
-
- Nial Tuvel (NiTu Machine Tools, 404 986 9741) who is the Ga State Silhouette
- champ, makes and sells a fantastic silhouette sight. The sight floats
- on 2 hardened and chromed pins and the lead screw is a very fine pitch
- hardened affair. The click detents are actually tiny spring balls like
- used on machine tools. One click is worth a half inch at 200 meters on
- a 14" barrel. The blade is hooded. I think he gets $120 for it. He'll
- want to install them for you. Don't let him. As good a gunsmith and
- machinist as he is, I've seen way too many sights come from his shop mounted
- crooked, mine included. If you buy the sight, put it on yourself.
-
- #Also, is there an accurate way of calculating the relation
- #between MOA and sight click? (In other words, giving
- #the sight radius, sight height (and adjustment per click),
- #muzzle velocity, can we accurately calculate the
- #MOA/click? I tried to calculate it using trigonometry
- #but it seems the result is too far from being accurate
- #after I tested in the range).
-
- you can compute it by simply using the ratio of distance between
- the sights to the distance between the front sight and the target.
- Problem is, you can't measure the sight height accurately enough.
- Consider: 1 inch of movement at the target is
-
- 1" * ( 14" sight distance / 67,200 inches (200 yards)) = 0.000208 inches
-
- (That is impressive to think that people can hold to that accuracy :-)
- The simple calculation does not take into account the dynamic effects
- that may be much more significant. For example, if you elevate the shot
- slightly, you are holding the gun at an ever so slightly different angle.
- This means the recoil force vector is slightly different which causes
- the muzzle to move slightly differently before the bullet exits.
- Computing even a ballpark figure is beyond my matchbook calculations
- here but you should be aware of 'em.
-
- The only thing you really need to worry about is whether the sight is
- repeatable (the T/C's is with a bit of work) and whether the clicks
- are fine enough resolution (The T/C's are not.)
-
- John
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