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  2. From: se08+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth Adam Eliot)
  3. Newsgroups: rec.guns
  4. Subject: update: 9mm and 40 S&W autos for carry
  5. Message-ID: <4f2HKYe00iV083l=B0@andrew.cmu.edu>
  6. Date: 17 Nov 92 18:33:04 GMT
  7. Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu
  8. Lines: 119
  9. Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu
  10.  
  11. I've received some info, and some additional suggestions regarding my
  12. quest for a good carry auto.  I've updated my table, new entries are
  13. preceded by **.  I've divided the table into 9mm and 40 S&W -- as can be
  14. seen by the number of entries for each, I'm leaning towards 9mm.
  15.  
  16. As always, all comments and suggestions are welcome.  If I recieve
  17. enough useful info, I'll post a summary.
  18.  
  19. View the following with a fixed width font (ie. courier or typewriter)
  20.  
  21.  
  22.  
  23. Model     Caliber  Capac.  overall  weight   action    other     price
  24.                             length   (oz.)                       (.77
  25.                             (in.)                                sugg
  26.                                                                 retail)
  27. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
  28. Glock 19    9mm      15      6.85    20.99    'safe   polymer    $450
  29.                                              action'  frame,       
  30.                       adj sight     (incl. extra mag, loader, and
  31.                        avail.               cleaning kit)
  32.  
  33. **S&W       9mm      12     6.81?    26.5      DA      alloy      449
  34. 6904                                                   frame
  35.  
  36. S&W 3914    9mm      8       6.81     26       DA      alloy      406
  37.                                                        frame
  38.  
  39. S&W 915     9mm      15      7.5     28.5      DA      alloy      360
  40.                                                        frame
  41.  
  42. **Sig       9mm      13      7.1     29.1      DA                 620
  43. Sauer
  44. P228
  45.  
  46. SIG Sauer   9mm      8       7.1      26       DA                 600
  47. P225
  48.  
  49. Accu-Tek    9mm      7       6.25     28     DA only              210
  50. AT-9
  51.  
  52. AMT On-     9mm      15      7.75     32      DA or               408
  53. Duty                                         DA only
  54.  
  55. Beretta     9mm      15      7.8     31.5      DA                 481
  56. 92FC
  57.  
  58. Colt All    9mm      15      7.5      29     DA only  polymer     443
  59. American                                               frame
  60. 2000 DA
  61.  
  62. Taurus PT   9mm      13      7.5      31       DA                 364
  63. 92C
  64.                                                        with       385
  65.                                                      shooters
  66.                                                        pack
  67.  
  68. **Heckler   9mm      13      6.73     29      SA ->   w/ grip     776
  69. & Koch                                                squeeze
  70. PTM13                                                 cocker
  71.  
  72. **Daewoo    9mm      13      7.42    28.2      DA      fast       384
  73. DP51                                                  action
  74.  
  75. **Sphinx    9mm      10       7      32.27     DA      CZ-75      661
  76. AT-2000H                                               copy
  77.                                                                    
  78.  
  79. Glock 23  .40 S&W    13      6.85    20.99    'safe     see       450
  80.                                              action' Glock 19
  81.  
  82. S&W 4014  .40 S&W    7        7       26       DA      alloy      484
  83.                                                        frame
  84.  
  85. Accu-Tek  .40 S&W    7       6.25     28     DA only              210
  86. AT-40
  87.  
  88. AMT On-   .40 S&W    11      7.75     32      DA or               408
  89. Duty                                         DA only
  90.  
  91. Beretta   .40 S&W    9       7.8     31.5      DA                 493
  92. 96FC
  93.  
  94. Model     Caliber  Capac.  overall  weight   action    other     price
  95.                             length   (oz.)                       (.77
  96.                             (in.)                                sugg
  97.                                                                 retail)
  98.  
  99. other models                 reason not considered
  100.  
  101. Walther P88 Compact          too expensive
  102. Browning High Power (P-35)   too big, SA
  103. Firestar M40                 SA
  104.  
  105. -------
  106. errata from last post.
  107. -Glock 19 capacity was listed as 17, should be 15 (although I'm told a
  108. +2 mag exists)
  109. -Most data is from Gun Digest 1993 (not "Gun Guide")
  110. -some price data from the local gun shop (Braverman's -- Wilkinsburg, PA)
  111. -Beretta 92FC info may not be accurate, I will check this and correct in
  112. future post
  113.  
  114.  
  115. -Seth
  116.  
  117.  
  118. __________________________________________________________________________
  119. "We... have no use for adventures.  Nasty disturbing uncomfortable
  120. things!  Make you late for dinner!"  -- B. Baggins 
  121.  
  122. Seth Eliot,            Dept of Material Science and Engineering
  123.                        Carnegie Mellon Univerity,   Pittsburgh, PA
  124. ARPA    :eliot+@cmu.edu            --------------------------------------
  125.    or    se08+@andrew.cmu.edu
  126. Bitnet:  se08%andrew@cmccvb        
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