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- From: luiland@meaddata.com (Yum Ting Lui)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos
- Subject: Re: 1993 Probe -- two week initial impressions (long-ish)
- Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:08:56 GMT
- Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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- References: <1992Nov12.215822.1711@beaver.cs.washington.edu> <1992Nov15.081412.10539@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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- In article <1992Nov15.081412.10539@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> ellisk@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Michael K. Ellis) writes:
- >dylan@cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee) writes:
- >
- >>I bought a 93 Ford Probe, and have had it for three weeks now. Even though
- >>all of my driving so far has been in "break-in" mode (varying speeds, haven't
- >>rev'd the engine to redline yet, etc) I think my experience so far is worth
- >>writing up, in case any of you are thinking about buying a similar car soon.
- >
- >I've had my GT for about 2 weeks now, and I'll be perfectly happy to add
- >my comments, where applicable. I bought mine with, as mentioned, the
- >GT, including the 2.5l V-6, PEP 263A (ABS, Cruise Control, Power
- >everything except antenna, 'premium stereo', and lots of goodies), as
- >well as a seat height adjuster and an engine block heater. I considered
- >the ABS a 'must' and wanted cruise control, and those two items alone
- >are barely $500 less than the package, so I'd advise getting the package
- >if you're looking for ABS and Cruise Control anyways.
- >
-
- I've had my Rio Red GT for about 13 hours now!!! I was torn between the MX6
- LS and the Probe GT. I was a very satify owner(13 hours ago) of an '88 MX6
- GT so it was difficult to part ways with MAZDA eventhough the two share
- the same platform. I bought mine with 263A, plus CD, moonroof, Anti-theft,
- mats, power seats and graphics equalizer.
-
- I test drove the MX6 and gave it a slight notch over the Probe in the
- interior and exterior styling(girlfriend like the Probe better though.)
- Gave big notch to Probe for handling, solid sound when closing doors,
- Keyless remote entry(I love this!) and the biggest of all is price.
- With my original options, the invoice for Probe was $17273, MX6 $18382.
- I believe the big difference came in August when MAZDA raised their
- prices 6%. I then decided to add CD to the Probe, but had to swallow
- equalizer($118) and power seat($259) because it was the closest one they
- could locate and even it was from Indianapolis, a 120 miles away. I didn't
- want to wait to order for 8-10 weeks and the anguish someone mentioned.
- I paid $300 over invoice, the lowest MAZDA offered was $750(a good
- deal also). I am glad I swallowed the equalizer now, it definitely makes
- a big difference.
-
- I have to say the Mazda sales manager is a slime. When I mentioned I
- was also looking at the Probe and mentioned Car & Driver rated it #1 in
- handling as oppose to the #5 MX6, he quickly responded that Ford owns C&D.
- For some strange reason, he also added that Japanese own Consumer Reports
- because he said they rate the MX6 more reliable than the Probe, for
- which he couldn't understand why since they share the same mechanical
- components.
-
- I am still wondering why the GT requires premium fuel. The salesman
- said it is probably due to platinum plugs. I have used premium for my
- Turbo MX6 all along anyway so it's no big deal.
-
- Where the heck is the coin box?? I now put them in the ashtray. I know
- why they don't have floor mats for the rear... There aren't any room
- for legs unless they are about 1 inch thick!!
-
- The 1st gear and reverse is a bit tough to engage, my old Mazda had
- problems with reverse only. But it sure shift a lot smoother.
-
- The motor is very smooth and sounds very sweet and smooth. Of course,
- compared to my old Turbo, anything sound sweet and smooth now. Why did
- they change the glass moonroof to the metal kind, I loved the sunshine
- during cold days. The moonroof is a lot narrower too, about half!
-
- I am able to fit three CD in the console but thinks the cupholder in the
- console is a bad idea. I really like the front floor mats, besides the
- plastic pins under the mats to hold it in place, there is a hook from
- underneath the seat to hold it in place. My old Mazda factory mats
- flops around under my feet. I hate all those knops on the ventilation
- system, everything else is push buttons. I like those big fat color-keyed
- body side molding, hope it will prevent most dinks.
-
- >Fine, tack on another $116 to the price. The dealer also 'graciously'
- >offered to eat the $250 'advertising' charge, which is good for them, or
- >I'd have gotten my deposit back and ordered a Saturn instead.
-
- My girlfriend has a Saturn SC. I drives and likes it a lot. But there
- is no way I would consider a Saturn over the Probe.
-
- >work. Check out fog lights. Left one's out. Check out all lights.
- >Right turn signal/parking light doesn't work. (Rather it worked, but
- >had come loose and fallen back inside, and was shining mostly on the
- >tire). I drove it to work, and took it in the next Saturday. I got
-
- I hope these gremlins won't show up on mine. The completion date on the
- door states 10/30/92, hope they cleaned up their act.
-
- >engine, and the placement of fourth gear is, instead of straight down
- >from third, down and actually a little to the right, something of a
- >diagonal motion.
-
- I have no problem whatsoever with the gears placement, maybe you are
- use to other cars. I had some problems with the MX6 LS's shifter but
- the Probe is natural for me. I don't think the 4th is slanted as you
- said.
-
- >recommend the car, with two caveats: don't order it, and make damn sure
- >you go through the car inside and out looking for problems before you
- >take it off the lot.
-
- I didn't order it with this advice in mind and checked everything out as
- best as I can.
-
- Cheers,
- Lui.
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