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- From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos
- Subject: Re: Whining about buying American cars
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- Date: 17 Nov 92 02:25:35 GMT
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- In article <BxqMzH.51M@acsu.buffalo.edu> v064mcqs@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER) writes:
- >
- > Hold on a minute buddy. You seem to be knocking American cars, making
- >them alot worse then they really are. Yes in the late seventies and
- >the Eighties, American cars were mostly shit. But Americans #1, have more
- >experience than the japanese in making cars. 2nd, you are forgetting about
- >the engineers. I am an electrical engineering student. All japanese cars
- >are designed in Japan.
-
- From that stupid statement, it's pretty obvious you're NOT a
- student of anything remotely related to automotive design.
-
- Care to bet bucks on how many Japanese cars are designed in the
- US?
-
- Even the 240Z was designed elsewhere than Japan....
-
- Yeesh. Go burn a cross or some other activity suitable to your
- jingoistic intellect.
-
- >American cars get the same mileage as Japanese cars, there is little difference.
- Care to post some CAFE numbers to back up your mis-information?
-
- >American cars are much improved over the years. And quality these days is
- >quite close. And American cars are cheaper and are less expensive to fix.
- American cars are close to quality?
-
- Cheaper and less expensive to fix?
-
- There are some really fine American cars...but none of them is
- particularly cheap to fix. And how often a car NEEDS fixing is a
- factor in service costs.
-
- > Examples of American accomplishments in the auto industry:
- > 1. GM's Saturn division. A complete sucess. Making the
- > Japanese wet their pants.
-
- More like snoring. There ARE some American cars that have hurt
- the Japanese, but Saturn is below the price range the Japanese
- are moving into for competition.
-
-
- > 2. Chrysler minivans are superior to their japanese counterparts
-
- One correct. You win $5.00.....
-
- > 3. The new Cadillac Northstar Engine. Superior that any
- >of the v8's japan can ship out.
-
- Not familiar with Ford's twin-cammer? Maybe the Northstar is
- the equal of the Japanese V-8's. Call us back in 150K miles and
- see if it hangs together that long. Some of us would-be Caddy
- buyers know someone stupid enough to buy an Eldorado.
- Perpetual maintenance that a Lotus would be proud of.
-
- BTW, the American V-8's, low tech tho some are, have just about
- ALWAYS beaten the foreign competition for longevity. You really
- have to try to hurt the typical 5 liter Ford or Chev engine.
-