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- From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:23:32 GMT
- Subject: Re: Digital Amps -> next???
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- >Now that we have CD, MD, DCC, DAT, and even Laser Disc players with digital
- >outputs, and pre-amps that will accept and convert them to analog, the
- >next logical step is digital amps, and obviously, speakers. Is this type
- >of technology possible? Does it even exist? Assuming these are true, what
- >advanatages/disadvantages would this provide? I think a discussion on this
- >subject would be both interesting and educational.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >Dave Hukill <dhukill@esprit.prime.com>
- ----------
- If not, it will at least be amusing! 8-)
- Digiatal preamps exist and sound pretty good (Sony TAES2000 @$1200). They
- take either a digital signal, process it (DSP) and convert it to analog
- with D/As or take an analog signal, digitize it, process it and D/A it.
-
- For the "best" sound, you want the preamp seperate from the power amp so
- the large signals generated by the poweramp don't get back and mix into the
- low level signals of the preamp. Ideally, you want all low-level processing
- in one box and high-power processing done in another - hence seperates.
-
- Quality power amps typically have SNRs (A weighted and converted to 1V ref)
- of 100 db or more while line preamps do well to get 90-95db. Acurus, for
- example is 110 and 95dB (not sure if this is referenced to 1V). DSP units
- are in the mid 80s under $1000 and reach the 90dbA range for $3000
- (Lexicon CP-3). My GUESS is that DSP lowers SNR because all the digital
- switches (or gates) pump transient current into the ground as well as radiate
- off the power supply bondwires. Both sources can find their way back into
- the analog section unless you spend alot of money to isolate and shield
- them.
-
- For a mixture of decent sound with low cost and lots of "features", it might
- make sense to have powered speakers with D/As in them. They would be fed
- with Plastic Optical Fiber (hopefully HP) links from the console that had
- DAT, CD, DSP, etc. The cost savings comes from only needing one pair of
- D/As with this method as well as not needing alot of expensive cables.
- We aren't talking "audiophyle sound" with this sort of system, but I bet
- you could easily get mid 80 dbA SNRs which would satisfy 99% of the
- market. I believe SONY has gone half way to this with some of their
- "100 WPC rack systems" at the $1000-$1500 range with speakers. SInce
- these SONY systems are 4 channel for surround-sound, I think it is
- cheaper to have one set of D/As in the preamp box and drive the speakers
- (four) with cheap speaker wire.
-
- Kirk out
- => "We are what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
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