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- From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
- Subject: Re: DCC -- JUST SAY NO! (was: The end of cassettes,
- References: <BxKt78.2Hu@unix.portal.com> <24214@alice.att.com> <27617@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
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- Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:12:46 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.231246.137@nas.nasa.gov>
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- In article <27617@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:
- |> In rec.audio, jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch) writes:
- |> >Must I again point out that a second-generation DCC (analog interface
- |> >between decks) is going to sound pretty bad? (Well,
- |> >"bad" is relative, perhaps I'm picky.)
- |>
- |> Yes you must. But you don't explaing why you think this. I don't expect
- |> multiple generation (analog or digital) copies on DCC or MD to be bad. Why
- |> do you?
- |>
- |> Are you thinking that the first generation will compress the data by
- |> throwing away 80%, so therefore the second generation must throw away
- |> another 80% of the 20% left, leaving only 4% of the original music?
- |>
- |> If this is your thinking, then here's mine. The first compression
- |> will remove 80% of the information, but the second time through the
- |> system, almost nothing will be removed, because it was all removed
- |> in the first pass.
- |>
- |> I don't expect multiple analog DCC or MD copies to hold up as well as
- |> DAT, but I expect it to be better than any cassette format.
- |>
- |> Have you heard (:-)) otherwise?
- |>
- |> If you have some evidence that multiple generation copies will be
- |> bad, please let us know about it. If you don't, please stop passing your
- |> theories along as if they were facts.
- |>
- |> Curt
- I think he's partly right. The fact is that the loss from compression is only
- where the information content of the signal is greater than the tapes capacity.
- After the signal has been reduced to a signal that can be stored on the tape
- (i.e., after the first time it is compressed), all further generations should
- be exactly the same.
- _______________ _____________
-
- Signal --> | compression | --> signal on tape --> | expansion | --> tape output
- _______________ _____________
-
- In theory, any signal that can be expanded from one on a DCC (or MD) tape should
- be compressible to exactly the same signal from which it was created unless if
- some part of the expansion process is generating new information that wasn't
- part of the original signal. Therefore, all generations of a DCC or MD tape
- should sound identical. Its too bad the first generation copy will
- sound so bad.
-
- Sam
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