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- From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
- Subject: My Job (Was Re: Actual lawyers on this group?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.230421.21171@eff.org>
- Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
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- Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
- References: <1992Nov13.220225.9737@hellgate.utah.edu>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:04:21 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov13.220225.9737@hellgate.utah.edu> tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:
- > I am considering practicing law, and would like to hear actual unfiltered
- >comments from lawyers in the ditches. Do you like your job? Why/not?
-
- I like it, and rather than simply tell you why, I'll repost here an
- article describing the legal services I provide as part of my job (the
- other parts of my work include writing and speaking for EFF).
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- EFF LEGAL SERVICES, by Mike Godwin, EFF Staff Counsel, Cambridge
- Because EFF has spent the last year developing and publicizing our
- policy-focused efforts at our new Washington office, many of our
- constituents have wondered whether EFF is still active on the
- civil-liberties front. The answer to that question is an unqualified
- "Yes!" This activity has been less well-publicized, however, often because
- of the privacy interests of most of the people who seek EFF help with
- their individual cases. I want to take this opportunity to let our members
- and constituents know what kind of legal services we offer, and what kind
- of casework we do.
- The primary legal services I provide are basic counselling and
- referrals. EFF does not charge for this, and you do not have to be an EFF
- member to call or write and ask for help. I answer general questions about
- computer law and telecommunications law at the federal level as well as in
- the jurisdictions in which I am admitted to the bar (currently Texas and
- Washington, D.C.). When appropriate, I instruct people to seek further
- consultation with lawyers in their respective jurisdictions, giving them
- referrals to specific lawyers when possible. (EFF maintains a database of
- attorneys who've volunteered to do some kinds of work on these kinds of
- cases.) I often mail out source materials to individuals and
- organizations. (One of the most frequently requested materials is the
- original complaint filed by Steve Jackson Games in its lawsuit against the
- U.S. government--many lawyers find that the complaint is a good primer on
- civil-liberties issues raised by the search and seizure of a computer
- bulletin-board system.) More frequently, I talk to people on the
- telephone. The kinds of questions I deal with tend to fall into the
- following three general areas:
- General questions about legal issues. A caller may be a sysop who's
- been told by someone that it's against the law to read users' e-mail, and
- she wants to know whether this is true. Or it may be a user who wants to
- know if it's legal to upload a scanned image of a copyrighted photograph
- to a BBS for downloading by other users. Or it may be a hobbyist
- programmer who wonders if he may be held liable if a computer virus he
- writes somehow "escapes" and infects and damages other systems. Usually
- these questions are aimed at *anticipated* legal risks (the caller wants
- to know ahead of time if her actions will lead to legal trouble), but a
- significant number of the calls are from people who wonder if their
- *current* activities are illegal or create risks of legal liability. For
- example, a lot of sysops of "pirate" BBSs have acquired the notion that
- they can't be held liable for providing access to unauthorized copies of
- commercial software because it's "the guy downloading the stuff who's
- doing the copying"--I tell them they are mistaken and point out the legal
- risks of providing such access. A small but consistent fraction of callers
- prefer to remain anonymous. I respect their wishes, and try to give just
- as much help to anonymous callers as to those who identify themselves.
- Requests for help in criminal cases. Basically, these types of
- requests fall into two categories, which I call "target cases" and
- "non-target cases" :
- A "target case" is one in which the request is from someone (the
- "target") who is very likely to become, or who has already become, a
- defendant in a state or federal case. I may get the request from the
- target personally, or I may get a call from the target's lawyer. (If the
- target doesn't have a lawyer, my first priority is to do what I can to
- help him get one. Although EFF does not normally provide funds for legal
- representation in criminal cases, I can tell a caller how to go about
- contacting a private defense lawyer or a public defender.) I'll ask the
- caller for basic facts about the case, and, once I'm in contact with his
- lawyer, I'll do what I can to help the lawyer learn the relevant law and
- gather the necessary facts to prepare the case. Even the very best defense
- lawyers are likely to be unfamiliar with the legal and evidentiary issues
- raised by computer-crime investigations--I'm often able to give them a
- running start on their case preparation. On a few occasions, a case may
- raise a particularly unusual and important civil-liberties issue, and I'll
- make a recommendation to EFF management as to whether EFF should formally
- support the case in some way.
- A "non-target case" is one in which the person asking for
- assistance or advice is not an actual or prospective defendant, but her
- rights or interests have somehow been affected by a criminal investigation
- or by the actions of law-enforcement officials. (The classic example is
- one in which a non-target sysop's BBS or networked computer has been
- seized as part of an investigation of one the system's users.) As in
- target cases, I may advise her lawyer, but I often can resolve things
- quickly by acting directly as a representative for the person asking for
- help. For example, in a recent Washington State case, I helped a
- non-target negotiate a quick return of his equipment, which federal agents
- had seized and searched as part of a multi-state criminal investigation.
- Requests for help in civil cases. Normally, EFF won't take sides in
- a civil case unless it clearly raises an important civil-liberties issue.
- One such case involved the manufacturers of a VCR-programming device who
- threatened to sue individuals participating in a discussion of their
- coding algorithms on the Usenet newsgroup sci.crypt. The company's lawyer
- insisted that the Usenetters' efforts at figuring out the algorithms by
- deducing them from the codes published in TV Guide listings and elsewhere
- was a violation of their copyright, patent, and trade-secret interests. I
- researched their claim and confirmed the Usenet posters' belief that their
- research did not violate any intellectual-property protections of the
- manufacturers' products, and I represented their position to the
- manufacturer, telling the company that the posters were engaged in
- Constitutionally protected speech and inquiry. After several convesations
- between me and the company's lawyer, the company dropped its claims. (The
- sci.crypt posters' research was eventually published as a paper in the
- journal CRYPTOLOGIA--Vol. XVI, Number 3, July 1992--in which the authors
- thanked EFF for their legal assistance.)
- Requests for help in situations where there's no criminal or civil
- case. This category includes situations in which, for example, a college
- student has his computer-access privileges suspended because a "hacker
- newsletter" is discovered by a system administrator rummaging through the
- student's directory. (I've explained to more than one system administrator
- that mere possession of such information does not make one a computer
- intruder, and that their rummaging may have violated the students'
- rights.) Or a university computer center may decide to suspend some kinds
- of Usenet newsgroups, justifying their actions by saying they're afraid
- the sexually oriented newsgroups are illegal. (I've written and spoken to
- university administrators to explain that virtually none of the
- discussions in the sexually oriented newsgroups on Usenet qualify legally
- as "obscenity"--instead, they're protected expression under established
- American Constitutional law.) Or a group of sysops may be concerned about
- their local phone company's efforts to impose business rates on nonprofit
- BBS phone lines. (I now refer most such calls to Shari Steele,
- ssteele@eff.org, the staff counsel of EFF's Washington office, who has
- given special study to these issues.)
- In addition to individual casework: I have represented EFF's legal
- services primarily on three forums--the WELL, Usenet, and CompuServe. As a
- result of my presence there, I have been receiving an increasing amount of
- casework, requests for legal advice, and invitations to speak. The number
- of these cases has increased in response to my presence online--it also
- has increased in response to my public appearances. After the Second
- Computers, Freedom, and Privacy conference, for example, I had three or
- four cases referred to me by people who met me in Washington.
- It is important that EFF members and constituents recognize we are here
- to help you solve individual problems as well as promote your interests on
- general policy issues. If you are running into a legal problem, or if you
- simply have a general legal question, or even if you're having a problem
- on the Electronic Frontier and you're not sure whether or not it's a legal
- problem, you should call me, Mike Godwin, at 617-864-0665, or send me
- electronic mail at mnemonic@eff.org or at 76711,317 on CompuServe. I won't
- always be able to help, but I'm always willing to listen. And I may be
- able to help more often than you'd think.
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- Mike Godwin, |"I can solve this Orient Express thing without
- mnemonic@eff.org| breaking a sweat. It's that simple."
- (617) 864-0665 |
- EFF, Cambridge | --Hercule Perot
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